Prices of plastering

Sammh1996

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To people who run their own plastering firms, how much do you pay your lads and how much do you charge them out for?
Have 10 lads on atm pay them £200, charge them out at £240.
Want to pay my lads more but cant really due to profit margins then dont want to put my prices up and lose my builders i work for
 
You do need to go supply and fix only so as to get a return on the materials. Collecting the payments from the builders was hard work and every week the boss was in court taking action against them for large sums of money.
 
You do need to go supply and fix only so as to get a return on the materials. Collecting the payments from the builders was hard work and every week the boss was in court taking action against them for large sums of money.
Do this on some jobs but can go wrong with the lads wasting too much material etc but obviously get your good earners out of them, i like day work as dont have to run around getting materials and havent got the worry of lads taking too long on jobs when its on a price
 
To people who run their own plastering firms, how much do you pay your lads and how much do you charge them out for?
Have 10 lads on atm pay them £200, charge them out at £240.
Want to pay my lads more but cant really due to profit margins then dont want to put my prices up and lose my builders i work for
You need to be charging them out at 350
Basic !
 
What I have found with a plastering firm is that you either have to have a very small or very large workforce. The small firm can pick and choose their work and the large firms can charge high prices as they have numbers to carry out large contracts.
 
What I have found with a plastering firm is that you either have to have a very small or very large workforce. The small firm can pick and choose their work and the large firms can charge high prices as they have numbers to carry out large contracts.
Yeah i do agree, i would love a big work firm but to get there you gotta start small, some weeks can have 15 spreads on but i do think sometimes of just downscaling then up my prices more with 5 lads
 
Is it really worth all the hassle for £40 per spread?
I mean when i work myself and have 10-15 blokes on it works out okay but i do agree i need to more of a profit margin but worried of losing some work as i dont want to not have steady work for my lads
 
I mean when i work myself and have 10-15 blokes on it works out okay but i do agree i need to more of a profit margin but worried of losing some work as i dont want to not have steady work for my lads
Do they work for you or do you work for them?
Are you more stressed than them?
If you find job that need 10 blokes, put 15 on it and charge for 20 blokes
give it a whirl but churn out decent work and clean up always
 
I can't imagine running a firm where it's all day work and labour only. Absolutely no room for decent profit doing that.
I used to have up to eight guys working for me and I worked pretty much every day myself.
All price work. All the guys, bar my labourer, also on price.
If you're buying enough gear profits on materials can be great.
My account once said he didn't know anyone who paid his guys so well, but had the highest profit to turnover ratio he ever seen. Literally everyone in the equation was happy. Especially me.
 
My account once said he didn't know anyone who paid his guys so well, but had the highest profit to turnover ratio he ever seen. Literally everyone in the equation was happy. Especially me.
I hope that's in the book.

The Trowel of Truth: My Life in Gypsum and Other Materials by Andy Claggs – Review

By Martin Penhaligon, Senior Features Writer

There are bad memoirs, there are deranged memoirs, and then there is The Trowel of Truth. Andy Claggs, self-anointed “greatest plasterer Britain has ever produced” and bane of every trade forum moderator in Essex, has written what can only be described as a 400-page tirade in block capitals.

At 60, most craftsmen might reflect on a lifetime’s work with humility, perhaps a nod to apprentices trained or houses restored. Claggs, by contrast, chooses rage. Page after page is dedicated not to plastering technique but to eviscerating anyone who has ever dared to wield a trowel in his presence. His “colleagues” are dismissed as “cowards, charlatans, and wallpaper scrapers with delusions of grandeur,” while he positions himself as a lone prophet of gypsum purity.

Between the furious passages (one chapter is simply the words “I AM THE TRADE” repeated 97 times), there are disturbing confessions. Claggs’ diet, he admits, has been reduced to “a haze of port and cheese, washed down with the songs of Pinky and Perky.” He claims to have broadcast more than 1,800 hours of The Trowel of Truth on YouTube — an unwatchable mix of slurred rage, plastering tips, and threats to hunt down doubters and force them to endure “knowledge rants tied to a chair.”

And yet — somehow — the book is hypnotic. Claggs is unrepentant, terrifying, and occasionally poetic. In one passage, he describes his quiet lakeside retreats with a fishing rod, Rich Tea biscuits, and “my beloved fish who do not question my finish.” It is here, in these fleetingly tender moments, that one glimpses the tragic possibility of the man he might have been.

The Trowel of Truth will not teach you to plaster. It will not make you a better person. But as a study in obsession, self-righteous anger, and the British tradesman’s psyche pushed beyond its breaking point, it is essential reading.

5 stars – deranged, disturbing, unforgettable.
 
I hope that's in the book.

The Trowel of Truth: My Life in Gypsum and Other Materials by Andy Claggs – Review

By Martin Penhaligon, Senior Features Writer

There are bad memoirs, there are deranged memoirs, and then there is The Trowel of Truth. Andy Claggs, self-anointed “greatest plasterer Britain has ever produced” and bane of every trade forum moderator in Essex, has written what can only be described as a 400-page tirade in block capitals.

At 60, most craftsmen might reflect on a lifetime’s work with humility, perhaps a nod to apprentices trained or houses restored. Claggs, by contrast, chooses rage. Page after page is dedicated not to plastering technique but to eviscerating anyone who has ever dared to wield a trowel in his presence. His “colleagues” are dismissed as “cowards, charlatans, and wallpaper scrapers with delusions of grandeur,” while he positions himself as a lone prophet of gypsum purity.

Between the furious passages (one chapter is simply the words “I AM THE TRADE” repeated 97 times), there are disturbing confessions. Claggs’ diet, he admits, has been reduced to “a haze of port and cheese, washed down with the songs of Pinky and Perky.” He claims to have broadcast more than 1,800 hours of The Trowel of Truth on YouTube — an unwatchable mix of slurred rage, plastering tips, and threats to hunt down doubters and force them to endure “knowledge rants tied to a chair.”

And yet — somehow — the book is hypnotic. Claggs is unrepentant, terrifying, and occasionally poetic. In one passage, he describes his quiet lakeside retreats with a fishing rod, Rich Tea biscuits, and “my beloved fish who do not question my finish.” It is here, in these fleetingly tender moments, that one glimpses the tragic possibility of the man he might have been.

The Trowel of Truth will not teach you to plaster. It will not make you a better person. But as a study in obsession, self-righteous anger, and the British tradesman’s psyche pushed beyond its breaking point, it is essential reading.

5 stars – deranged, disturbing, unforgettable.
Nice to see you've still got plenty of time on your hands mate.
Are you still enjoying life away from the trowel?
 
Wow complete career change
Had to be done, I suffered frozen shoulder in both my shoulders it was annoying in my left shoulder and it cleared up after injections and physio therapy. When the right shoulder went it didn’t respond to the treatment I knew I was done. The job i have now came about by accident, an old customer called looking for me to do some work I told him I was out the game and offered me a job at the company he worked for, went for an ad-hoc interview and started the following week.
 
Had to be done, I suffered frozen shoulder in both my shoulders it was annoying in my left shoulder and it cleared up after injections and physio therapy. When the right shoulder went it didn’t respond to the treatment I knew I was done. The job i have now came about by accident, an old customer called looking for me to do some work I told him I was out the game and offered me a job at the company he worked for, went for an ad-hoc interview and started the following week.
Nice.... I am waiting for my shoulder operations... No more plastering for me anymore.... thankfully.

I am at that stage in life where I am not sure which direction I want to go in.... Bees are good... but not enough money to make a living from.

My ADHD has got really really bad in the last few years where I am struggling to manage it like I use to... we shall see what the future holds.
 
Nice.... I am waiting for my shoulder operations... No more plastering for me anymore.... thankfully.

I am at that stage in life where I am not sure which direction I want to go in.... Bees are good... but not enough money to make a living from.

My ADHD has got really really bad in the last few years where I am struggling to manage it like I use to... we shall see what the future holds.
How old are you now Danny?
Could you not expand the honey business, or is it the 'time in to money out' that's the problem?
 
How old are you now Danny?
Could you not expand the honey business, or is it the 'time in to money out' that's the problem?
I am 42 in November.

I have been investing every year in the honey business... Nearly quit a few times but I keep going.

I had an apiary that was being robbed and has taken about £15k out of my pocket. So that's another year of break even at best....

I would need another 60k to expand further to make a real difference .. if you then divide that into jars of honey....

I love beekeeping and I am mentoring 3 other new beekeepers but struggle to see if it will ever make me a living
 
I am 42 in November.

I have been investing every year in the honey business... Nearly quit a few times but I keep going.

I had an apiary that was being robbed and has taken about £15k out of my pocket. So that's another year of break even at best....

I would need another 60k to expand further to make a real difference .. if you then divide that into jars of honey....

I love beekeeping and I am mentoring 3 other new beekeepers but struggle to see if it will ever make me a living
f**k me I thought you were at least 42 the first time I met you. Life can be so cruel.
Thieving c**ts! I do sometimes wonder if these scummy bastards realise the true impacts of their crimes?
I'd chop their hands off.
60k sounds like a lot of extra jars need selling.
Have you considered becoming an international hitman? I don't think anyone would suspect you.
 
f**k me I thought you were at least 42 the first time I met you. Life can be so cruel.
Thieving c**ts! I do sometimes wonder if these scummy bastards realise the true impacts of their crimes?
I'd chop their hands off.
60k sounds like a lot of extra jars need selling.
Have you considered becoming an international hitman? I don't think anyone would suspect you.
Lol international hitman sounds fun and quite profitable
 
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