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Yeah thats the one he called that said they have it, i want him to try it i think it has good advantages on small jobs
 
I had an ideal job for it yesterday a small artex ceiling and skim half a wall over some cracks I had to tape. The room was 3m by 2.7m, I over boarded and used just under 6, 6x3 plaster boards a bit of PVA, screws and a bag and half of multie. I got to the job at 1 and was gone for 4.30 but if I used the uni I would of been gone for 3. Now her is the problem which job do you think would of been best? Which job would you want done if it was yours? There is only so much you can charge and I guarantee the customer wouldn't of been happy paying me what he did for 3 hours work, that looks simple. I knew he was happy to pay for over boarding coz he thought he was getting a better job which he is because I can guarantee it but I never guarantee over skims on artex.
 
flynnyman said:
I had an ideal job for it yesterday a small artex ceiling and skim half a wall over some cracks I had to tape. The room was 3m by 2.7m, I over boarded and used just under 6, 6x3 plaster boards a bit of PVA, screws and a bag and half of multie. I got to the job at 1 and was gone for 4.30 but if I used the uni I would of been gone for 3. Now her is the problem which job do you think would of been best? Which job would you want done if it was yours? There is only so much you can charge and I guarantee the customer wouldn't of been happy paying me what he did for 3 hours work, that looks simple. I knew he was happy to pay for over boarding coz he thought he was getting a better job which he is because I can guarantee it but I never guarantee over skims on artex.
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I never cared if it was 3 hours or 3 days a price is a price the job... if I wanted a wage I would be employed :D
 
That was a good lie in getting there for 1! :)
Fair point yes i reckon your job was the better one but as you know sometimes with coving they dont want the added cost.
As danny has said it has its place and if is around £7 and widely avaliable it will get used.
 
flynnyman said:
I had an ideal job for it yesterday a small artex ceiling and skim half a wall over some cracks I had to tape. The room was 3m by 2.7m, I over boarded and used just under 6, 6x3 plaster boards a bit of PVA, screws and a bag and half of multie. I got to the job at 1 and was gone for 4.30 but if I used the uni I would of been gone for 3. Now her is the problem which job do you think would of been best? Which job would you want done if it was yours? There is only so much you can charge and I guarantee the customer wouldn't of been happy paying me what he did for 3 hours work, that looks simple. I knew he was happy to pay for over boarding coz he thought he was getting a better job which he is because I can guarantee it but I never guarantee over skims on artex.
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I don't work past 3pm I have to get back to walk my dog before it get dark I used to work later.
 
Been doing a bedroom in a bungalow on old paint etc I decided get a bag of uni as well as the bags of multi I must be mad as Bnq £10 for the uni

first time I'd used it ,different texture smoother ,nice stuff to use the wall I chose had a couple sockets on it n a light switch best thing instead of using pva as I tend to slap on too much and it runs to the electrics so I put my first coat on I'd to mix too much so it still nice n wet I used the same mix for the 2nd speedskim it n left it christ does it ever set dI'd noticed it blistered in places trowel bit too hard it would tear

I'm not the best plasterer but not the worst I enjoy it all aspects if u said fit 8 double sockets for a day or plaster for a day I'd choose the plastering

But price for £10 which is the cheapest around my way at Bnq n Travis have stop selling it blaming the price it set at the other is Jewsons same price again it doesn't take a brain surgeon which I choose 2 bags for the price of 1
 

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flynnyman said:
I had an ideal job for it yesterday a small artex ceiling and skim half a wall over some cracks I had to tape. The room was 3m by 2.7m, I over boarded and used just under 6, 6x3 plaster boards a bit of PVA, screws and a bag and half of multie. I got to the job at 1 and was gone for 4.30 but if I used the uni I would of been gone for 3. Now her is the problem which job do you think would of been best? Which job would you want done if it was yours? There is only so much you can charge and I guarantee the customer wouldn't of been happy paying me what he did for 3 hours work, that looks simple. I knew he was happy to pay for over boarding coz he thought he was getting a better job which he is because I can guarantee it but I never guarantee over skims on artex.
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I get what your saying but what are you guaranteeing?
That the plaster will stay on or that there won't be no cracks?
If there's to much movement in the joist some
Scrim won't stop this will it?

Same concept here Weber,Parex BG all follow.
A guarantee isn't really worth anything as there are to many variables.

If it did crack what would you do?
Say you filled it and it came back?
Those problem jobs, very rare but always one.

Ceilings are a bigger I find.

This isn't any sort of slating or bad mouthing mate I'm just interested how/what others would do?
 
Jgreenplastering said:
I get what your saying but what are you guaranteeing?
That the plaster will stay on or that there won't be no cracks?
If there's to much movement in the joist some
Scrim won't stop this will it?

Same concept here Weber,Parex BG all follow.
A guarantee isn't really worth anything as there are to many variables.

If it did crack what would you do?
Say you filled it and it came back?
Those problem jobs, very rare but always one.

Ceilings are a bigger I find.

This isn't any sort of slating or bad mouthing mate I'm just interested how/what others would do?
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This is why i recommend over boarding painted or artex ceilings with cracks. If i scrim or paper tape them there still could be a join which was not visible that could crack after the overskim, but if i overboard and paper tape then 99% sure no come backs. The worst ones are bungalows which have one big crack a lot of times so i overboard and try to span this crack if i can.
 
jamesthefirst said:
This is why i recommend over boarding painted or artex ceilings with cracks. If i scrim or paper tape them there still could be a join which was not visible that could crack after the overskim, but if i overboard and paper tape then 99% sure no come backs. The worst ones are bungalows which have one big crack a lot of times so i overboard and try to span this crack if i can.
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You've missed what I'm getting at mate.
I'm the same as you with over boarding where possible but what are we guaranteeing with an over board? A crack free ceiling?

Realistically how can we do this?
It purely down to timber movement whether the new boards will crack on a joint or not.
Specially the lower ground floors where there is a lot of traffic above.
Have you had one yet that has cracked on one join and no matter what you can't get it to go away?
 
I probably came across a persistent crack years ago so thats why i overboard now, if i have to overskim and any cracks reapear i dont put it right by skimming it again as in my terms it will state recommend of boarding. Using resiliant bars is a good way of giving the ceiling a chance of not cracking. I have used the render mesh on a few ceilings with 100mm scrim first as they didnt want to pay for boarding and are fine as far as i know. Your right you cant gaurentee a totally crack free ceiling but we can only explain to people the best way then let them decide,which can sometimes result in another bloke gets the job! Usually a decorater.
 
Jgreenplastering said:
I get what your saying but what are you guaranteeing?
That the plaster will stay on or that there won't be no cracks?
If there's to much movement in the joist some
Scrim won't stop this will it?

Same concept here Weber,Parex BG all follow.
A guarantee isn't really worth anything as there are to many variables.

If it did crack what would you do?
Say you filled it and it came back?
Those problem jobs, very rare but always one.

Ceilings are a bigger I find.

This isn't any sort of slating or bad mouthing mate I'm just interested how/what others would do?
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I guarantee if it does crack I will repair it but it never does, I explain over boarding is the best job to reduce cracking. That's the word I use "reduce" and that's all you can do, if there is movement in the building the crack will be obvious. Over skimming artex your adding more weight to a ceiling you know nothing about ie no tapes, loose tapes, loose nails, wallpaper underneith but with an overboard you don't have to worry and a better job. You are also staggering the first skin of boards adding more strength to the ceiling so that's why I offer a guarantee.
 
hstoke said:
Been doing a bedroom in a bungalow on old paint etc I decided get a bag of uni as well as the bags of multi I must be mad as Bnq £10 for the uni

first time I'd used it ,different texture smoother ,nice stuff to use the wall I chose had a couple sockets on it n a light switch best thing instead of using pva as I tend to slap on too much and it runs to the electrics so I put my first coat on I'd to mix too much so it still nice n wet I used the same mix for the 2nd speedskim it n left it christ does it ever set dI'd noticed it blistered in places trowel bit too hard it would tear

I'm not the best plasterer but not the worst I enjoy it all aspects if u said fit 8 double sockets for a day or plaster for a day I'd choose the plastering

But price for £10 which is the cheapest around my way at Bnq n Travis have stop selling it blaming the price it set at the other is Jewsons same price again it doesn't take a brain surgeon which I choose 2 bags for the price of 1
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Nice to see u gave it a go ..at least u know what u can or cant do with it..
Not everyone will want to try a new product or tool but used on the right surface or job it's smoother and helpful on jobs..think all agree the price is a shame.
 
flynnyman said:
I guarantee if it does crack I will repair it but it never does, I explain over boarding is the best job to reduce cracking. That's the word I use "reduce" and that's all you can do, if there is movement in the building the crack will be obvious. Over skimming artex your adding more weight to a ceiling you know nothing about ie no tapes, loose tapes, loose nails, wallpaper underneith but with an overboard you don't have to worry and a better job. You are also staggering the first skin of boards adding more strength to the ceiling so that's why I offer a guarantee.
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I used to think I was the best plasterer in the world ..then I met a guy called super Louie he was the best I seen in terms of how much he spread and quality of his finish.would I say to him I do a better job..no because no one is the best..everyday is a school day
If u want to overboard fine ,I do as well when I think it's needed but I have and will always overskim if I think it's ok..don't think there is many people on here who need telling how to skim a ceiling or board
 
theplasterman said:
I used to think I was the best plasterer in the world ..then I met a guy called super Louie he was the best I seen in terms of how much he spread and quality of his finish.would I say to him I do a better job..no because no one is the best..everyday is a school day
If u want to overboard fine ,I do as well when I think it's needed but I have and will always overskim if I think it's ok..don't think there is many people on here who need telling how to skim a ceiling or board
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been on the sauce?

That's like randomly generated words put in to a massive sentence! :birra:
 
Saturday afternoons were made for drinking....it was all part of gods plan when he designed it all. Friday & Saturday write off anything say after 7pm as it will all be bollox:LOL:
 
theplasterman said:
I used to think I was the best plasterer in the world ..then I met a guy called super Louie he was the best I seen in terms of how much he spread and quality of his finish.would I say to him I do a better job..no because no one is the best..everyday is a school day
If u want to overboard fine ,I do as well when I think it's needed but I have and will always overskim if I think it's ok..don't think there is many people on here who need telling how to skim a ceiling or board
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I taught super Louie :) re read what I said, I said it was a better job and it is.
 
theplasterman said:
No point pva ing with uni...intended on doing opposite wall as well but dried to fast ...used what was left of the mix to do side of fire....didn't take picture..back there tomorrow..will post
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Its s**t if u dont no where u stand till u get it on the wall , u pva and can tell if its gunna suck or not ..... Just a massive guestimate really? So u saved pva but cudnt get both them on ? Thats gunna knock u back abit unless u price every job to cover this problem ?
 
Interesting thread which has convinced myself to have a go at uni! not bothered on price as it will passed on to the customer .how many quarter buckets of leftover skim gets thrown away? when not paying for it !
 
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Bagrat said:
Interesting thread which has convinced myself to have a go at uni! not bothered on price as it will passed on to the customer .how many quarter buckets of leftover skim gets thrown away? when not paying for it !
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Time settings info on back of bag is worth a read before use .. on painted surface no different to using multi just flatten straight away..happy days
 
Im going to use this stuff soon.got a job coming up that could be ideal.painted artex, the full room.
 
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