Plasterer or Roofer?

[imorgan]

Hello all.

I've been doing some renovation work which required removing a couple of upstairs ceilings including in a bathroom. I've found some things under the plaster that I think I may need to get a professional plasterer or roofer in for but I'm not sure which, hopefully someone here can advise.

When I was removing the tiles and old power shower a large amount of plaster fell away from the blockwork, I decided I would remove the rest of the plaster and put up a vapour barrier in the ceiling and elements boards directly onto the blockwork so I'd get a bit more room in the bathroom and save on re-plastering that wall before adding tiles. As I've removed the plaster I've found a large metal tie embedded in the plaster as well as an area that appears to be concrete, just below where the eaves sit on top of the outer wall. I don't want to accidentally do anything that might compromise the roof or lead to condensation issues so I'm thinking I need to get either a plasterer or roofer in to check/finish the work. Is it standard practice to use concrete ontop of blockwork like this? Would you consider this a plastering job or roofers job?

In the pictures it looks like the top section is plaster I think it's only a skim as the bit under it is rock solid.

Cheers

imorgan

 

[smoother09]

Decorator will get that

 

[Brimstone]

put the bit of metal back, it's called a roof tie and stops the roof lifting/flying off. Required under building regs and put in by the builder not the spread or the roofer.

If you don't know what you are doing, and you clearly don't, then you shouldn't be doing it.
You are not doing renovation work, you are ruining your house.
You do not tile onto a vapour barrier and you are not going to save all of an inch by not having plaster. Neither are you "saving on plastering".

Pay for the proper pro's, better job, done right and a lot quicker than the remedials neccesary if you carry on. If you cannot afford it leave it until you can, or borrow money.

 

[haoyona]

Hello all.

I've been doing some renovation work which required removing a couple of upstairs ceilings including in a bathroom. I've found some things under the plaster that I think I may need to get a professional plasterer or roofer in for but I'm not sure which, hopefully someone here can advise.

When I was removing the tiles and old power shower a large amount of plaster fell away from the blockwork, I decided I would remove the rest of the plaster and put up a vapour barrier in the ceiling and elements boards directly onto the blockwork so I'd get a bit more room in the bathroom and save on re-plastering that wall before adding tiles. As I've removed the plaster I've found a large metal tie embedded in the plaster as well as an area that appears to be concrete, just below where the eaves sit on top of the outer wall. I don't want to accidentally do anything that might compromise the roof or lead to condensation issues so I'm thinking I need to get either a plasterer or roofer in to check/finish the work. Is it standard practice to use concrete ontop of blockwork like this? Would you consider this a plastering job or roofers job?

In the pictures it looks like the top section is plaster I think it's only a skim as the bit under it is rock solid.

Cheers

imorgan

I would prefer roofer.

 

[Tinytom]

If you fix board direct to the block work how will you plumb it up? It’ll be all over the shop.
step away from the diy videos, put down YouTube and call someone who does this for a living

 

[Cockney]

It’s not uncommon to have a concrete beam or lintel just below where the eaves meet the outer wall, especially if it's providing extra support to the roof structure. This would typically be part of the building's structural design. Since you're concerned about compromising this area, a roofer might be better suited for this part too. They’ll understand how the roof sits on the walls and how the eaves interact with the overall structure. If needed, they may suggest a structural engineer's input for added reassurance.

3yrs too late.

 

[paulf]

Hi Imorgan,

From what you’ve described, it sounds like the metal tie is likely a wall or roof tie, and the concrete area above the blockwork is probably a lintel or capping supporting the eaves, which is standard in construction. Because this involves the roof-to-wall connection, it’s safest to have a roofer inspect it before doing any finishing work. The plastering itself can be done afterward, but the structural and condensation risks are the priority. So, get a roofer to check and confirm it’s safe, then you can bring in a plasterer to finish the ceiling and walls.

Four years to late.

 

[Spitandpolish]

Four years to late.

Kill Joy !!!! ... The poor c**t only wanted someone to talk to without any of the personal risk.....go and have a good old think to yourself about all the long term damage that you may,or not, have caused mate......
Very Unimpressed..., S&P

 

[paulf]

Kill Joy !!!! ... The poor c**t only wanted someone to talk to without any of the personal risk.....go and have a good old think to yourself about all the long term damage that you may,or not, have caused mate......
Very Unimpressed..., S&P

I like this post very much and you being unimpressed is both hilarious and heartwarming, your a proper tonic.
To show my appreciation type the code S&Psucksoffdonkeys at the checkout to receive a free gourmet jelly of your choice.
www.CHD.com/gelée-du-jour

 

[Danny]

Four years to late.

I have removed him now

 

[paulf]

I have removed him now

Probably a bot mate, the bane of every Internet forum total bandwidth hogs.

 

[Danny]

Probably a bot mate, the bane of every Internet forum total bandwidth hogs.

these bots are getting cleverer... was not leaving any links or anything.....

 

[essexandy]

these bots are getting cleverer... was not leaving any links or anything.....

What do these bots gain from their presence on a forum?
It can't be money, well unless my cheques have been going to the wrong address?

 

[Danny]

What do these bots gain from their presence on a forum?
It can't be money, well unless my cheques have been going to the wrong address?

Because the forum is old and has a lot of content other sites gain from posting links to their websites or they sell the links they post to others.....

 

[paulf]

well unless my cheques have been going to the wrong address?

 

[essexandy]

Because the forum is old and has a lot of content other sites gain from posting links to their websites or they sell the links they post to others.....

Well that's as clear as mud, thanks lol.

 

[ChrispyUK]

I like this post very much and you being unimpressed is both hilarious and heartwarming, your a proper tonic.
To show my appreciation type the code S&Psucksoffdonkeys at the checkout to receive a free gourmet jelly of your choice.
www.CHD.com/gelée-du-jour

Don’t be giving away too many of them codes Pauly. Gourmet jellies cost money and not forgetting when Dorris was manning the trade stand at Accrington and got a bit too liberal with the handouts. We’re still 2 quid down and that takes some clawing back in the real world.

 

[paulf]

Don’t be giving away too many of them codes Pauly. Gourmet jellies cost money and not forgetting when Dorris was manning the trade stand at Accrington and got a bit too liberal with the handouts. We’re still 2 quid down and that takes some clawing back in the real world.

Rest assured boss that won’t be a regular occurrence as that code can only be used once. Now have you got any idea when those leftover envelopes from Accrington will be sold, Doris mentioned a buyer from Essex.

 

[essexandy]

Rest assured boss that won’t be a regular occurrence as that code can only be used once. Now have you got any idea when those leftover envelopes from Accrington will be sold, Doris mentioned a buyer from Essex.

Sounds unlikely, most of us don't know how to hold a pen, let alone write a letter and posting it.

 

[ChrispyUK]

Sounds unlikely, most of us don't know how to hold a pen, let alone write a letter and posting it.

Or a trowel

 

[ChrispyUK]

Rest assured boss that won’t be a regular occurrence as that code can only be used once. Now have you got any idea when those leftover envelopes from Accrington will be sold, Doris mentioned a buyer from Essex.

You’re damm right it won’t be a regular occurrence! Anyway, we’ll move forward and put this behind us.

Be careful with that Essex buyer, bit of a shark in breams clothing unless it’s the other one who’s just a fat c**t.

 

[paulf]

You’re damm right it won’t be a regular occurrence! Anyway, we’ll move forward and put this behind us.

Be careful with that Essex buyer, bit of a shark in breams clothing unless it’s the other one who’s just a fat c**t.

Doris said that the buyer would be using the envelopes for sanitary purposes, as they have severe bowel movements.

 

[paulf]

Sounds unlikely, most of us don't know how to hold a pen, let alone write a letter and posting it.

Doris is sure, said the caller had an unusually piercing high pitched voice, she had tinnitus for a few days afterwards.

 

[ChrispyUK]

Doris said that the buyer would be using the envelopes for sanitary purposes, as they have severe bowel movements.

Well that goes without saying Pauly. We’ll have a bored meeting tomorrow and go from there. In the meantime I’ve had a chat with an entrepreneur down the pub - someone called “Danny” and he says that with his track record that we can easily avoid “the couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery” situation we’re in.
Of course it may leave us another fiver down on top of the 2 quid Dorris lost us but it’s a risk worth taking. The Accrington pitch is not cheap.

 

[paulf]

Well that goes without saying Pauly. We’ll have a bored meeting tomorrow and go from there. In the meantime I’ve had a chat with an entrepreneur down the pub - someone called “Danny” and he says that with his track record that we can easily avoid “the couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery” situation we’re in.
Of course it may leave us another fiver down on top of the 2 quid Dorris lost us but it’s a risk worth taking. The Accrington pitch is not cheap.

Accrington has been an unhappy hunting ground it's bloody cursed, stolen van, missing slacks, boxes of unused stationary now £7 down, thankfully www.CHD.com is a global powerhouse founded on the principles of the 3 P's.