scattycat64
New Member
Hi all
I'm after quite a bit of advice and guidance on a project I have just started. Some friends have a very old house and I offered to help with the redecoration. It was built around 1850 and so I am assuming the ceiling rose will date approx. the same.
I have used Peel Away 7 to remove the layers of paint, quite successfully and then neutralised (or so I thought the plaster rose detail). I used a spray so that it would reach all the intricate areas. Once done I washed with water and then applied a Zinsser BIN 123 primer, sealer. The adhesion failed completely, and it was all very dusty and chalky if I rubbed it. It looked like there were more layers to be lifted and the BIN had reacted. So, I have applied a second lot of Peel Away 7 to remove anything else left behind and the BIN. I'm just waiting for this to work and then I'm going to set to cleaning and neutralising again.
Would the chalky residue be due to not all the paint being removed, the Zinsser BIN or not neutralising and cleaning properly the Peel way off? I literally had water running off the ceiling rose, so I thought I had soaked it enough? Should I use sugar soap, would this help?
Do I need to scrub it after the neutraliser or just wipe away? I can't scrub too hard or some of the ornate pieces may detach.
Which leads on to my next question of what would I use the reattach a couple of pieces that have fallen off cleanly. They are only small pieces with no weight to them, but I want to use the right medium and not just use no more nails like someone suggested.
Which then finally leads on to my other question of once all the peel away is gone and I have a sound clean base to work from, do I need to seal the plaster before painting and possibly gold leafing. What sealant would be suitable and what white paint should I use so as not to clog the detail once again. The gold leaf size will adhere to most primers/sealers, so I just need to get the finish right before I start to apply the leaf.
Exciting project but needs to be done right. Thanks for any advice anyone can give me to what to use, tips on tools to get into the hard to reach places. Anything that will make it easier or quicker tips will all be very much appreciated and greatly received!

I'm after quite a bit of advice and guidance on a project I have just started. Some friends have a very old house and I offered to help with the redecoration. It was built around 1850 and so I am assuming the ceiling rose will date approx. the same.
I have used Peel Away 7 to remove the layers of paint, quite successfully and then neutralised (or so I thought the plaster rose detail). I used a spray so that it would reach all the intricate areas. Once done I washed with water and then applied a Zinsser BIN 123 primer, sealer. The adhesion failed completely, and it was all very dusty and chalky if I rubbed it. It looked like there were more layers to be lifted and the BIN had reacted. So, I have applied a second lot of Peel Away 7 to remove anything else left behind and the BIN. I'm just waiting for this to work and then I'm going to set to cleaning and neutralising again.
Would the chalky residue be due to not all the paint being removed, the Zinsser BIN or not neutralising and cleaning properly the Peel way off? I literally had water running off the ceiling rose, so I thought I had soaked it enough? Should I use sugar soap, would this help?
Do I need to scrub it after the neutraliser or just wipe away? I can't scrub too hard or some of the ornate pieces may detach.
Which leads on to my next question of what would I use the reattach a couple of pieces that have fallen off cleanly. They are only small pieces with no weight to them, but I want to use the right medium and not just use no more nails like someone suggested.
Which then finally leads on to my other question of once all the peel away is gone and I have a sound clean base to work from, do I need to seal the plaster before painting and possibly gold leafing. What sealant would be suitable and what white paint should I use so as not to clog the detail once again. The gold leaf size will adhere to most primers/sealers, so I just need to get the finish right before I start to apply the leaf.
Exciting project but needs to be done right. Thanks for any advice anyone can give me to what to use, tips on tools to get into the hard to reach places. Anything that will make it easier or quicker tips will all be very much appreciated and greatly received!






