ProofShield

New Member
We're looking for ways to increase the visibility of our insulating render product in the UK and have decided that the best way is to get it into the hands of people that will make good use of it and give us feedback for case studies in return.

ProofTherm insulating render is a lightweight, breathable render that provides both thermal and acoustic insulation. Its ideal use is in older properties that need to retain vapour permeability or where it's just not practical to go down the route of using an EPS based system.

It can be applied by hand or machine and goes on in 20mm layers. It can be built up to 10cm if required, however typically in the UK its being used at between 20mm and 60mm.

Our offer is this:

  • We will supply the primer and insulating render free of charge
  • Carriage from Sittingbourne in Kent will need to be paid for
  • For individual projects where we can get before and after pictures and installation pictures along with a review of the installation process from you that will be used by us as a case study
  • Project details/pictures to be submitted to us in advance for approval
  • Whilst stocks last
Insulating render needs to be finished off with a suitable top coat. We can supply a 2mm grain mineral render top coat at £6.00 per bag (25kg) or you can use any silicone coloured thin coat.

This is a good opportunity to make some real margin on a job and add an extra product to your skills and experience bank. It will help us out as well and we always look after our friends :)

So, do get in touch if you think you can help and have a project that will be suitable.

Call Andy on 07887-351071



ProofTherm Insulating Render
 

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owls

Private Member
Wasn’t there vimark on here doing this?
Does it have a full BBA for this country?
So thicknesses, to meet building regs and get a u value of 0.3 or there abouts on a solid masonary wall you need 90mm eps or 80mm phenolic,
What thickness would you need for your product?
 

Rigsby

TPF Special Forces
Wasn’t there vimark on here doing this?
Does it have a full BBA for this country?
So thicknesses, to meet building regs and get a u value of 0.3 or there abouts on a solid masonary wall you need 90mm eps or 80mm phenolic,
What thickness would you need for your product?
Sounds similar to Vmark. I used it at 70mm on a solid wall and got .7 I think.

Good breathability and that house hardly ever has the heating on. Pinches heat from the neighbours through the part wall. Sometimes too warm they have to open windows to cool down.
 

Vincey

Private Member
@Vincey is your man, some free gear and a t shirt and he’ll do a video using it and shamelessly promote it all over the internet.
I met a guy on a quote who said he was using this on his project big old house , other plasterer got the work but the benefits look good , tbf id try a few bags out if I had a job available for it but atm I haven’t mate
 

Vincey

Private Member
Can understand Malcolm and owls asking what they have but another thing definitely a niche market that should be grasping with both hands.
 

Rigsby

TPF Special Forces
Can understand Malcolm and owls asking what they have but another thing definitely a niche market that should be grasping with both hands.
It is a niche market. VMark passes me work on but its never in Sheffield. I don’t need to travel out of the City.

There is another in Cumbria that is worth getting into but its a 3 day training course in Italy. £90m2 going rate.
 

ProofShield

New Member
Wasn’t there vimark on here doing this?
Does it have a full BBA for this country?
So thicknesses, to meet building regs and get a u value of 0.3 or there abouts on a solid masonary wall you need 90mm eps or 80mm phenolic,
What thickness would you need for your product?
Not really practical to get to 0.3 w/m2K building standards just using a product like this as you'd need to build up to a thickness of around 10cm on a bare masonry wall. With the best will in the world, a render product can't match the insulation values of EPS.

Products like ProofTherm can provide a really useful insulation upgrade in situations where a full EWI approach is either impractical or unaffordable. They are also really useful for renovations of older properties where retaining vapour permeability through the wall is essential, something that needs to be considered when using traditional insulation measures such as EPS.

We haven't put ProofTherm through BBA as it is not likely to be used on new builds. It is of course CE approved and marked.
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
Not really practical to get to 0.3 w/m2K building standards just using a product like this as you'd need to build up to a thickness of around 10cm on a bare masonry wall. With the best will in the world, a render product can't match the insulation values of EPS.

Products like ProofTherm can provide a really useful insulation upgrade in situations where a full EWI approach is either impractical or unaffordable. They are also really useful for renovations of older properties where retaining vapour permeability through the wall is essential, something that needs to be considered when using traditional insulation measures such as EPS.

We haven't put ProofTherm through BBA as it is not likely to be used on new builds. It is of course CE approved and marked.
That's a shame as I am due to re-render my 200+ year old cottage and would have been interested if this could match, or get close to, 70mm graphite EPS.
 

owls

Private Member
Not really practical to get to 0.3 w/m2K building standards just using a product like this as you'd need to build up to a thickness of around 10cm on a bare masonry wall. With the best will in the world, a render product can't match the insulation values of EPS.

Products like ProofTherm can provide a really useful insulation upgrade in situations where a full EWI approach is either impractical or unaffordable. They are also really useful for renovations of older properties where retaining vapour permeability through the wall is essential, something that needs to be considered when using traditional insulation measures such as EPS.

We haven't put ProofTherm through BBA as it is not likely to be used on new builds. It is of course CE approved and marked.
Yes there's a market for it, no doubt about that, just not a massive market I guess.
It would be the vat issue aswell for domestic jobs, would it be classed as energy saving work and rated at a flat rate of 5%.
 

ProofShield

New Member
Yes there's a market for it, no doubt about that, just not a massive market I guess.
It would be the vat issue aswell for domestic jobs, would it be classed as energy saving work and rated at a flat rate of 5%.
Yes, 5% vat for installation as it's an insulating product and the whole job would come under the same treatment. We still have to add normal VAT though for trade sales. It's only at the installation end that the VAT drops i.e. for installation, not for supply
 

owls

Private Member
Yes I know as a supplier it would be 20% I was on about the end user i.e. Mrs jones down the road. If your cheaper than vimark you'll fly along.
 

imago

Private Member
Did anyone try any bags ?
Thanks
Lee put 30 bags of it around that cottage. He said it was nice gear to use as it's very light, and the finish was very effective for that job. He sponged it up so that it had a rougher texture which exposed the granules rather than trowelling it smooth and using a top coat.

It took some time to go off, but it was winter with no heat. Over the following few months it wicked the damp from the walls nicely. From an insulating perspective it seems very good, 20-25mm over single skin brickwork made a noticeable difference.

To cut a long story short, I definitely use it again and I'd happily recommend it to others.

The only other thing to note is that at the time it wasn't on the list of 'approved' insulation materials for EPC rating. We gave them all the info and they said they'd add it to the review list. How long that bureaucratic bollox takes is anyone's guess. :sleep:
 

Vincey

Private Member
Lee put 30 bags of it around that cottage. He said it was nice gear to use as it's very light, and the finish was very effective for that job. He sponged it up so that it had a rougher texture which exposed the granules rather than trowelling it smooth and using a top coat.

It took some time to go off, but it was winter with no heat. Over the following few months it wicked the damp from the walls nicely. From an insulating perspective it seems very good, 20-25mm over single skin brickwork made a noticeable difference.

To cut a long story short, I definitely use it again and I'd happily recommend it to others.

The only other thing to note is that at the time it wasn't on the list of 'approved' insulation materials for EPC rating. We gave them all the info and they said they'd add it to the review list. How long that bureaucratic bollox takes is anyone's guess. :sleep:
Thanks mate appreciate the reply have two similar jobs and will contact the proofshield guys for a spec based on lee’s thumbs up to product
Would be nice to hear of anyone using top coat too on this as have heard of issues with similar product to this
 

imago

Private Member
Thanks mate appreciate the reply have two similar jobs and will contact the proofshield guys for a spec based on lee’s thumbs up to product
Would be nice to hear of anyone using top coat too on this as have heard of issues with similar product to this
I have one bag of it left which is in the unit if you want it to have a go with?
 

tapit

Active Member
Not really practical to get to 0.3 w/m2K building standards just using a product like this as you'd need to build up to a thickness of around 10cm on a bare masonry wall. With the best will in the world, a render product can't match the insulation values of EPS.

Products like ProofTherm can provide a really useful insulation upgrade in situations where a full EWI approach is either impractical or unaffordable. They are also really useful for renovations of older properties where retaining vapour permeability through the wall is essential, something that needs to be considered when using traditional insulation measures such as EPS.

We haven't put ProofTherm through BBA as it is not likely to be used on new builds. It is of course CE approved and marked.
swap you for a roll of tape.
 

ProofShield

New Member
Thanks mate appreciate the reply have two similar jobs and will contact the proofshield guys for a spec based on lee’s thumbs up to product
Would be nice to hear of anyone using top coat too on this as have heard of issues with similar product to this
Are you looking at using it internally or externally? Either way, as long as you are using a decent breathable primer (Acrylic based) there's no reason for any problems with top coats. We also have a silicon enhanced mineral top coat for external finishes (2mm grain, looks good with a dragged finish) which is really cheap and works well.
 

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Vincey

Private Member
Are you looking at using it internally or externally? Either way, as long as you are using a decent breathable primer (Acrylic based) there's no reason for any problems with top coats. We also have a silicon enhanced mineral top coat for external finishes (2mm grain, looks good with a dragged finish) which is really cheap and works well.
External, I’m gonna ring you guys for a chat tomorrow thanks
 
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