Been ripped off by agency
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Ashleyscoob
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How long have you been waiting mate
Ashleyscoob
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Try ringing from a different number what were there payment terms
johniosaif
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SpankySouthport
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Has there ever been a union?
Sick of hearing of sh*t like this and also as ever had some personal experiences with this also
Sick of hearing of sh*t like this and also as ever had some personal experiences with this also
in the 60s was the last time i saw a building workers union. if a site was union job you had to have a union card to be able to work on that site. you where paid the union rate which was very low. you also had to pay union subs.
we where on the lump, a lump sum for square yard. no holiday pay ,no sick pay, we negotiated our own rates. with the huge building boom at the time we could earn 3x or 4x the union rate.
the union had a strike and a march all around the country trying to stop us working on the lump. some of the union men got sent to prison over the strike including the actor ricky tomlinson who was a plasterer at the time.
johniosaif
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Yes, if a job is shot it's **** regardless of unions,
Spot on malc also about the same time 6 month course guys appeared on the scene, frowned upon by all journeymen.
SpankySouthport
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Cheers for the info and history fella, nice to hear something different from the past.
Ricky Tomlinson well I never
All I ever hear/heard that the rates haven't changed since the 80s is this true for site work m2?
£1.75 a mtr2 float and set, £1.50 a mtr2 board and set 1983 these prices, by 1985 2.00 per mtr float n set £1.75 board n set, 1990 £2.00 board n set, £2.80 dot dab n set, £ 3.00 float n set, influx of d+d in next ten years made floating a specialist job lol and it became £4.50 plus per mtr but not used all too often ,Yorkshire rates these as I have gone through them , now is better rates but not gone up with inflation , last boom I was charging wat I wanted for float and set work
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mikeadams1985
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Ricky tomlinson served time working for me grandad.
Me grandad taught him to ride a motorbike on a building site lol. Even gets a couple of mentions in his book. One about the motorbike and one about how my grandad was the hardest grafter he ever seen. Screening and trowling up floors till all hours.
Me grandad taught him to ride a motorbike on a building site lol. Even gets a couple of mentions in his book. One about the motorbike and one about how my grandad was the hardest grafter he ever seen. Screening and trowling up floors till all hours.
mikeadams1985
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Just seen this in Google
Now, sitting in the Savoy Hotel in central London at the start of a two-month publicity tour for his autobiography, he delivers a short lecture on fibrous plastering and monolithic flooring. "In the hallway you will see a fancy fluted ceiling and Corinthian caps on top of the columns. That's fibre. They are cast out of a mould. Adams Brothers, where I served my time as an apprentice, was probably the premier firm in the north of England for that kind of work. They did work on cathedrals and churches and specialist buildings. We learned a lot – not just ordinary plastering and stuff."
Now, sitting in the Savoy Hotel in central London at the start of a two-month publicity tour for his autobiography, he delivers a short lecture on fibrous plastering and monolithic flooring. "In the hallway you will see a fancy fluted ceiling and Corinthian caps on top of the columns. That's fibre. They are cast out of a mould. Adams Brothers, where I served my time as an apprentice, was probably the premier firm in the north of England for that kind of work. They did work on cathedrals and churches and specialist buildings. We learned a lot – not just ordinary plastering and stuff."
mikeadams1985
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No I mean. Laying a floor and trowling it up properly flat smooth and level.
BobbyJack
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Or just Google it.
Had to drive to the designers to get paid for 2 jobs owed. They tried offering a bank transfer after I started to get a bit loud. Came away with 2 cheques. This is after a week of promises of payment and not returning calls. After talking with the lad I work with we decided to now add **** tax onto any price we give them
Had to drive to the designers to get paid for 2 jobs owed. They tried offering a bank transfer after I started to get a bit loud. Came away with 2 cheques. This is after a week of promises of payment and not returning calls. After talking with the lad I work with we decided to now add **** tax onto any price we give them
BetterTAX
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I thought you had UCATT or UNITE as unions to join, although from what I see they only do what suits them to do.
It seems no one has good things to say about agencies or umbrellas, for that matter. Unfortunately, the big corporations don't want to get their hands dirty and tied by employing direct, so use middle men. And they don't necessarily want to get involved with hiring self-employed (CIS) so agncies and umbrellas sorted that too.
However, the government brought in new laws in April regarding what they see as "false self-employment" so agencies should now be paying everyone (unless Ltd company - I believe) PAYE.
You are not alone with an agency not paying - scaffs tell of the same thing. Agencies often don't pay if they have not been paid - so it all goes back to the big corps again.
Hope you get paid up soon.
It seems no one has good things to say about agencies or umbrellas, for that matter. Unfortunately, the big corporations don't want to get their hands dirty and tied by employing direct, so use middle men. And they don't necessarily want to get involved with hiring self-employed (CIS) so agncies and umbrellas sorted that too.
However, the government brought in new laws in April regarding what they see as "false self-employment" so agencies should now be paying everyone (unless Ltd company - I believe) PAYE.
You are not alone with an agency not paying - scaffs tell of the same thing. Agencies often don't pay if they have not been paid - so it all goes back to the big corps again.
Hope you get paid up soon.
johniosaif
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Hope you do,hate this shiiiit
FourInchesWide
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I think monolithic flooring is something in one layer. It's a long time since I heard the term in college but I guess you could think of a trowelled, concrete slab as a monolithic floor?
A quick Google reminded me that it may be when you lay a s/c screed upon a concrete slab while the concrete is still 'green'... the two layers in effect becoming one.
at one time, we would pre lay the screed onto oversite on the same day that the concrete oversite was laid. we would fit a 2x1 on to the brickwork and screed up to that. cover the screed with sand till the house was built.
hardwall/ browning, and skim is monolithic plastering.
hardwall/ browning, and skim is monolithic plastering.
FourInchesWide
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What's 'oversite'?
So Malc, you're screed was approx. 1" thick and that was only possible as it was a 'mono' screed? (effectively, there being no joint between the layers)
The sand being to keep moisture in the screed and stop brickies sxxt marring the surface?
Just trying to understand. ;-)
screeds where only 1" thick. the gas and water mains placed in the oversite. we would lay the screed as soon as the concrete oversite would take the weight of us. it is a simple method to screed as it is just a straight pull.
the sand was to protect the screed from the rest of the building work.
user__removed
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just sand and cement 3 to 1. if concrete oversite had set we just flood with water.
all screeds where 1" thick. we did have to flood them and cover with poly or they would dry out to quick, and would turn up like a slice of bread if you just left it to dry out.
user__removed
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Screed should be covered anyhow but I can remember only 1 screed that I have seen get covered.
1" would be great got 50m2 @ 95mm tomorrow
1" would be great got 50m2 @ 95mm tomorrow
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