Thin coat black ?

LPS

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Hi chaps. Been asked to supply and fit a black thin coat silicone ... anyone know if anyone actually does that ? Looked on weber and krend and couldn't find black... closet I could find was grey ...

Thanks

Lps
 
Hi chaps. Been asked to supply and fit a black thin coat silicone ... anyone know if anyone actually does that ? Looked on weber and krend and couldn't find black... closet I could find was grey ...

Thanks

Lps
Someone definitely does because my mate has just done his plinth with it. I'll find out the make and report back.
 
Don't think there'll be many that do (warranty issues) because black is the no1 heat conductor.
After a few summers it'll be faded then no doubt cracked from expansion / contraction from weather/ temperature variations.
Like Andy has said I've seen it on plinths or below DPC but no we're else (probably paint).
 
As I suspected, the black top coat my mate used was Atlas.
Although their base coats are abysmal, their top coat is actually all right.
 
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Jub has a black. Used it on large plinths and its as dark as you could probably get on the market. Cant remember the name sorry.
 
Applying a thin coat of render at the plinth level is generally not recommended. The plinth, which is the lower part of a wall near the ground, is a high-risk area for moisture ingress. It is susceptible to splashing from rain, ground-level moisture, and rising damp.

Thin-coat renders, while offering a modern and sleek finish, are not typically designed to handle this level of moisture exposure. They are often less permeable and less durable than traditional renders used for plinths. Using a thin coat render in this area could lead to:

  • Cracking and delamination: Moisture trapped behind the render can freeze and expand, causing the render to crack and peel away from the wall.
  • Water ingress: If the render cracks, water can seep into the wall, potentially causing damage to the wall structure and leading to issues like mold and dampness inside the building.
  • Aesthetic issues: Discoloration and staining are common in high-moisture areas, and a thin coat render may show these imperfections more readily.
For plinth applications, it's generally recommended to use a more robust, breathable, and water-resistant solution. This could include:

  • Traditional sand and cement render: A thicker, more durable mix that is often mixed with a waterproofer.
  • Lime render: A highly breathable and flexible option that is excellent for managing moisture.
  • Specialized plinth renders: Some manufacturers offer specific plinth renders that are formulated with enhanced water resistance and durability.
In all cases, it's crucial to ensure proper preparation of the wall and to follow the manufacturer's instructions for the specific product being used. A professional installer would be able to advise on the best approach for your specific project and local climate.
 
Applying a thin coat of render at the plinth level is generally not recommended. The plinth, which is the lower part of a wall near the ground, is a high-risk area for moisture ingress. It is susceptible to splashing from rain, ground-level moisture, and rising damp.

Thin-coat renders, while offering a modern and sleek finish, are not typically designed to handle this level of moisture exposure. They are often less permeable and less durable than traditional renders used for plinths. Using a thin coat render in this area could lead to:

  • Cracking and delamination: Moisture trapped behind the render can freeze and expand, causing the render to crack and peel away from the wall.
  • Water ingress: If the render cracks, water can seep into the wall, potentially causing damage to the wall structure and leading to issues like mold and dampness inside the building.
  • Aesthetic issues: Discoloration and staining are common in high-moisture areas, and a thin coat render may show these imperfections more readily.
For plinth applications, it's generally recommended to use a more robust, breathable, and water-resistant solution. This could include:

  • Traditional sand and cement render: A thicker, more durable mix that is often mixed with a waterproofer.
  • Lime render: A highly breathable and flexible option that is excellent for managing moisture.
  • Specialized plinth renders: Some manufacturers offer specific plinth renders that are formulated with enhanced water resistance and durability.
In all cases, it's crucial to ensure proper preparation of the wall and to follow the manufacturer's instructions for the specific product being used. A professional installer would be able to advise on the best approach for your specific project and local climate.
Ah I see. So by using jablite (white non-absorbant polystyrene) to form the plinth below the base track, applying a basecoat of Maite, followed by a coat of Parmurex and finished in Sandtex black masonry paint, I've f**k*d up?
 
Ah I see. So by using jablite (white non-absorbant polystyrene) to form the plinth below the base track, applying a basecoat of Maite, followed by a coat of Parmurex and finished in Sandtex black masonry paint, I've f**k*d up?

One minute it's your mate, now it's you, initially it's thin coat now it's Sandtex...f**k sake
 
One minute it's your mate, now it's you, initially it's thin coat now it's Sandtex...f**k sake
You really are as thick as you come across aren't you.
My mate has just done his plinth with black Atlas topcoat.
Ten years ago I applied the system I described to my own cottage and it's still sitting there as good as the day it was applied.
I'm sure you'll still struggle with this you thicko.
 
You really are as thick as you come across aren't you.
My mate has just done his plinth with black Atlas topcoat.
Ten years ago I applied the system I described to my own cottage and it's still sitting there as good as the day it was applied.
I'm sure you'll still struggle with this you thicko.

On a cottage..it gets worse.
 
Everyone is a clueless chancer in your book...maybe you should start up a Youtube channel show us all how it is done.
Not at all. There are some great, really knowledgeable guys on here. I remember when I first decided to install an ewi system on my place, that I was given loads of useful advice. Same when I was offered some thincoat work for the umpteenth time and a couple of members messaged me and encouraged me to take it on, saying that with my skillset it would be easy and they'd give advice where needed, and they did.
So no I really don't think that everyone is a clueless chancer on here at all, far from it, but I know you are.
 
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Not at all. There are some great, really knowledgeable guys on here. I remember when I first decided to install an ewi system on my place, that I was given loads of useful advice. Same when I was offered some thincoat work for the umpteenth time and a couple of members messaged me and encouraged me to take it on, saying that with my skillset it would be easy and they'd give advice where needed, and they did.
So no I really don't think that everyone is a clueless chancer on here at all, far from it, but I know you are.

All your posts have a flavour of narcissism...one thing we all know is you tick alot of the boxes.
 
See you will think that because deep down you know that you're just a chancer winging his way through life.
Andy Claggs – Britain’s Number One Plasterer – Lays Down the Law


"Right, listen up, you lot. Every so-called ‘plasterer’ in this country needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and admit it: you’re useless chancers. Half of you can’t even mix a decent batch without it going lumpy, and the other half couldn’t get a wall flat if your life depended on it.


You lot strut around with your buckets and your trowels like you’re kings of the trade, but I’ve seen more finesse on a toddler’s sandcastle. You’re rushing jobs, cutting corners, and leaving customers with surfaces that look like they’ve been buttered by a drunk bricklayer.


Meanwhile, me – Essex Andy – I’m out here delivering glass-smooth perfection every single day. Not ‘good enough’, not ‘passable’, but actual artistry. My work is so flawless, decorators thank me in tears because they don’t have to spend a week sanding down your wavy nonsense.


So, let’s get one thing clear: I’m not just better than you – I’m in a completely different league. I’m the plasterer your plasterer calls when they’ve botched a job and need it saving. I’m the gold standard. The benchmark. The reason customers look at your work and say, ‘Shame it’s not like Andy Claggs did it.’


Until you up your game – which, let’s face it, you won’t – Britain’s plastering crown stays with me. And I wear it better than you ever could."
 
Andy Claggs – Britain’s Number One Plasterer – Lays Down the Law


"Right, listen up, you lot. Every so-called ‘plasterer’ in this country needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and admit it: you’re useless chancers. Half of you can’t even mix a decent batch without it going lumpy, and the other half couldn’t get a wall flat if your life depended on it.


You lot strut around with your buckets and your trowels like you’re kings of the trade, but I’ve seen more finesse on a toddler’s sandcastle. You’re rushing jobs, cutting corners, and leaving customers with surfaces that look like they’ve been buttered by a drunk bricklayer.


Meanwhile, me – Essex Andy – I’m out here delivering glass-smooth perfection every single day. Not ‘good enough’, not ‘passable’, but actual artistry. My work is so flawless, decorators thank me in tears because they don’t have to spend a week sanding down your wavy nonsense.


So, let’s get one thing clear: I’m not just better than you – I’m in a completely different league. I’m the plasterer your plasterer calls when they’ve botched a job and need it saving. I’m the gold standard. The benchmark. The reason customers look at your work and say, ‘Shame it’s not like Andy Claggs did it.’


Until you up your game – which, let’s face it, you won’t – Britain’s plastering crown stays with me. And I wear it better than you ever could."
Shut up
 
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