Plaster situation/goverment support!

zombie

Private Member
I will bet my house on our trade being left in a situation where by there is still not sufficient stock of materials to work before the goverment funding finishes end of June.

Theres absolutely no way on this planet this stock situation will be resolved in 4 weeks time as demand and peoples backlog & additional panic buying will continue to outstrip supply due to hysteria.

@BritishGypsum please comment?
 

Complete

Well-Known Member
I will bet my house on our trade being left in a situation where by there is still not sufficient stock of materials to work before the goverment funding finishes end of June.

Theres absolutely no way on this planet this stock situation will be resolved in 4 weeks time as demand and peoples backlog & additional panic buying will continue to outstrip supply due to hysteria.

@BritishGypsum please comment?
Thank the lord for mono stock mate
 

Lastlaff

Well-Known Member
Wonder when BG were in production on a normal day, at what capacity were they pumping out plaster at?
 

zombie

Private Member
Wonder when BG were in production on a normal day, at what capacity were they pumping out plaster at?

The problem now is that every plasterer in the county has a backlog of jobs of 12 weeks work and with fresh enquires most will have a minimum of 3 months work and desperate for materials.

It's a perfect storm it will be like toilet rolls for weeks imo.

I hope I'm proven wrong but I just cant see it.
 

reeves1985

Well-Known Member
The problem now is that every plasterer in the county has a backlog of jobs of 12 weeks work and with fresh enquires most will have a minimum of 3 months work and desperate for materials.

It's a perfect storm it will be like toilet rolls for weeks imo.

I hope I'm proven wrong but I just cant see it.
I agree

Prices on gear only going one way as well.

Interesting to see how it plays out really.

There one thing I'm quite sure about

There will be a lot less chances about
 

Vincey

Private Member
Same I think we are absolutely f**k*d tbf
Few weeks ago I thought be ok now I can’t see it being ok till September
 

Donzo

Well-Known Member
I will bet my house on our trade being left in a situation where by there is still not sufficient stock of materials to work before the goverment funding finishes end of June.

Theres absolutely no way on this planet this stock situation will be resolved in 4 weeks time as demand and peoples backlog & additional panic buying will continue to outstrip supply due to hysteria.

@BritishGypsum please comment?
Funding is up to 31st may.
Decision on further payment for self employed next few days.so if you cant get materials it will be to your own cost.
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windy

Private Member
I agree

Prices on gear only going one way as well.

Interesting to see how it plays out really.

There one thing I'm quite sure about

There will be a lot less chances about
Why will there?? They are often on benefits and as such will be sitting in the garden drinking beer giggling at everyone running around looking for gear...they will have a rest then resume when supplies can be easily found at the local wickes .
 

hector

Well-Known Member
I will bet my house on our trade being left in a situation where by there is still not sufficient stock of materials to work before the goverment funding finishes end of June.

Theres absolutely no way on this planet this stock situation will be resolved in 4 weeks time as demand and peoples backlog & additional panic buying will continue to outstrip supply due to hysteria.

@BritishGypsum please comment?
ffs
 

hector

Well-Known Member
Same I think we are absolutely f**k*d tbf
Few weeks ago I thought be ok now I can’t see it being ok till September
ah i see slowly the tide is turning ,starting to follow behind hector now,join the queue vincey,keep in line you lot at the back there ,vincey is joining us
 

hector

Well-Known Member
The problem now is that every plasterer in the county has a backlog of jobs of 12 weeks work and with fresh enquires most will have a minimum of 3 months work and desperate for materials.

It's a perfect storm it will be like toilet rolls for weeks imo.

I hope I'm proven wrong but I just cant see it.
well if you kept 4 letters of zombie,and added another 4 say for arguements sake hctr,and juggled them about ,you would almost think i wrote this, hey ho another one on board, get behind vincy zombie he arrived just before you
 

hector

Well-Known Member
The problem now is that every plasterer in the county has a backlog of jobs of 12 weeks work and with fresh enquires most will have a minimum of 3 months work and desperate for materials.

It's a perfect storm it will be like toilet rolls for weeks imo.

I hope I'm proven wrong but I just cant see it.
ffs
 

Rossi46

Private Member
I predicted this right back at the beginning. It was so obvious. It’s why I came back in early and got a jump on it. Also warned the builders I work for and things seem to be ok at the moment. Not perfect but ok.
 

reeves1985

Well-Known Member
Why will there?? They are often on benefits and as such will be sitting in the garden drinking beer giggling at everyone running around looking for gear...they will have a rest then resume when supplies can be easily found at the local wickes .
Theyllend up jumping in something else.

This material situation isn't going back to normal anytime soon.

It will be next year before that happens
 

zombie

Private Member
The more I think about this the angrier I get. How can 1 company have a complete strangle hold over a trade.

This is literally going to loose peoples homes and livelihoods if it isnt sorted by mid June at latest.
 

Gobey1989

Active Member
The more I think about this the angrier I get. How can 1 company have a complete strangle hold over a trade.

This is literally going to loose peoples homes and livelihoods if it isnt sorted by mid June at latest.

completely agree, would love there to be a decent competitor, looking forward to trying this Carlite stuff on Monday, little pricey at £11 a bag though
 

Stewie03

Well-Known Member
completely agree, would love there to be a decent competitor, looking forward to trying this Carlite stuff on Monday, little pricey at £11 a bag though
I've done the same I don't trust the material situation to even its self out anytime soon so I've ordered some carlite in to get me started in july looking forward to trying this stuff out
 

Groove37

Well-Known Member
Can somebody, anybody please explain or give me 1 single reason why BG wouldn’t fill every single shelf in all the merchants throughout the country if they could in the next day, week or month.
As I can’t get any skim could I get some free merchandise as compensation???
 

algeeman

It’s A Boy
Can somebody, anybody please explain or give me 1 single reason why BG wouldn’t fill every single shelf in all the merchants throughout the country if they could in the next day, week or month.

materials least of my worries
I worked out i get stopped £12 a door
tackers about £8
so that's £20 a door

£320 last 2 plots

:crying: :crying:
 

Cockney1

Well-Known Member
Can somebody, anybody please explain or give me 1 single reason why BG wouldn’t fill every single shelf in all the merchants throughout the country if they could in the next day, week or month.
Can somebody please explain the back to 80% production bullshit when nowhere has got any plaster??
 

Diana01

Member
completely agree, would love there to be a decent competitor, looking forward to trying this Carlite stuff on Monday, little pricey at £11 a bag though

My Carlite arrived yesterday and my builder started using it today. He has waxed lyrical about it. It takes longer to set, which is perfect in the current hot climate. The finish is unbelievably smooth. He was also able to complete more plastering than he would with multi-finish so he recons what I spent extra on the Carlite I will save on time.
 

zombie

Private Member
Can somebody, anybody please explain or give me 1 single reason why BG wouldn’t fill every single shelf in all the merchants throughout the country if they could in the next day, week or month.

Doesnt matter if you can or cant as we have nowhere else to go.

But seen as your asking answer me this question if you had competitors in a very competitive market like the render suppliers do would you have let this situation arise and risked losing your market?

The answer is absolutely not!
 

The Apprentice

Well-Known Member
Can somebody please explain the back to 80% production bullshit when nowhere has got any plaster??
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It’s going out but it’s gone within minutes when it hits the merchants. I googled how many builders merchants in the U.K. and it came back with a figure of 10,000. Going to take a bit of time to stock all of them even if the production was 200%.
 

Cockney1

Well-Known Member
My local merchants I use have to wait 3 weeks for a delivery after an order has been put through, that doesn’t sound like BG are up to 80% productivity to me. The plaster is definitely not being distributed evenly and fairly, This is happening up and down the country!
 

The Apprentice

Well-Known Member
Doesnt matter if you can or cant as we have nowhere else to go.

But seen as your asking answer me this question if you had competitors in a very competitive market like the render suppliers do would you have let this situation arise and risked losing your market?

The answer is absolutely not!
If competitors did exist they would have been in the same position as BG. How could the current situation have been avoided? Even if the production had been maintained, the merchants closed their doors, so nowhere to hold stock, and that’s if it could be done without putting people’s lives at risk.
 

The Apprentice

Well-Known Member
My local merchants I use have to wait 3 weeks for a delivery after an order has been put through, that doesn’t sound like BG are up to 80% productivity to me. The plaster is definitely not being distributed evenly and fairly, This is happening up and down the country!
With approximately 10,000 merchants to service over a 3 week period that’s over 650 artics each day
 
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