carbon steel

[spunky]

Do you use them for backing coats gibbo?

 

[essexandy]

I find stainless more heavy i only use carbon 16 x 4

Most of the lads that have been brought up on SS Permashape trowels would struggle like hell putting on with a carbon IMHO Gary.

 

[essexandy]

Do you use them for backing coats gibbo?

I know you weren't asking me mate but always use a carbon for backing coats. Just the act of cutting out the internals with a carbon is so much nicer.

 

[beddy]

I've got a 14x4 carbon and it is lovely to use. Bit of a pain putting ceilings on so I ended up using my ss cus it's wider. Must get the carbon out tomorrow and give it a little tlc. Might even show it a bit of plastering

 

[henry]

I suppose why carbon trowels maybe not the plasterers choice and don't want to keeping going into the past but we do not do sand and cement rendering on new builds anymore. When we use to use to be rendering at least a couple days a week this would really keep your carbon trowel really clean.

 

[whitebeam]

Quite surprised there so many carbon fans as myself included....

 

[nickelarse]

I've got a 14x4 carbon and it is lovely to use. Bit of a pain putting ceilings on so I ended up using my ss cus it's wider. Must get the carbon out tomorrow and give it a little tlc. Might even show it a bit of plastering

your so s**t

 

[nickelarse]

Most of the lads that have been brought up on SS Permashape trowels would struggle like hell putting on with a carbon IMHO Gary.

i think steel is far easier to put on with than stainless.....

 

[nickelarse]

i got taught with steel so im obviously bias, but i always found a stainless trowel feels a lot more clumsy and heavy, harder to put on with and not as sharp.

 

[nickelarse]

I suppose why carbon trowels maybe not the plasterers choice and don't want to keeping going into the past but we do not do sand and cement rendering on new builds anymore. When we use to use to be rendering at least a couple days a week this would really keep your carbon trowel really clean.

true but i dont find the rust a problem personally. your rendering trowel will get a bit rusty if it doesnt get used for a while, but it soon cleans up after a couple of walls. skimming trowel gets used often enough to keep it fairly rust free.

for example i used my skimming trowel on friday for the first time in at least a month. was a bit rusty so just went outside and gently rubbed it on the patio slab. good as new in 30 seconds...

 

[NRM2007]

I can't understand why rust would be a problem for a carbon trowel, it takes literally a minute to wipe it dry and spray with a bit of wd40 at the end of the day. Just keep it wiped clean if you're having a brew etc. If you can't be arsed to do that with the one tool that mainly earns your living for you then you need a career change to a sparky or something, coz they're bone idle.

 

[spunky]

The only reason I mainly use permashape is all other trowels seem to go out of shape too easy

 

[nickelarse]

are the permashapes nice to use?

 

[spunky]

Same as any trowel really, the shape of them can be a bit extreme and you end up chasing trowel lines, will never bend the wrong way though

 

[DannyMac]

Whats the difference between a permashape and a normal trowel then? What makes them keep shape better?

 

[nickelarse]

theyre shaped like a banana. permanently

 

[Gibbo]

Do you use them for backing coats gibbo?

yes spunky i do

 

[henry]

Been useing my 11 " carbon all day today and it does give a better finish then SS me thinks.

 

[Gibbo]

better than plazzy h

 

[Jace]

i actually found a carbon steel at the bottom of my bag today gave it a bit of tlc and gave it ago but i think (cos i havent looked at it properly) it might be bent the wrong way but accross the blade somehow cos it kept snatching onto the wall it was like my first time at plastering again haha

 

[Gibbo]

give it a tap on the last rivet each end with a hammer

 

[Jace]

when you say a tap are we talking a loving tap or hold it tight and give it a bit of a bang (but only a bit)

 

[essexandy]

I suppose why carbon trowels maybe not the plasterers choice and don't want to keeping going into the past but we do not do sand and cement rendering on new builds anymore. When we use to use to be rendering at least a couple days a week this would really keep your carbon trowel really clean.

I never use my carbon skimming trowel for S&C, but do use a cheap Ragni steel trowel for all my backing coat and external rendering work.

 

[bubbles65]

Likewise Andy.......a black-handled Ragni, an old dog lent me it and I 'forgot' to give him it back :RpS_thumbup:

 

[Jace]

i sat there for a while today with an oil stone some sand paper and a tin of wd40 cleaning my one up today andy but i think more work is needed still before i let it loose on finish

 

[Gibbo]

when you say a tap are we talking a loving tap or hold it tight and give it a bit of a bang (but only a bit)

the second but on a flat surface should bend it back

 

[spunky]

Where do you hit it on the top or underneath?

 

[Jace]

haha that was my next question? on the bar or the blade

 

[beddy]

I was told when a Trowel was out of shape to sit the toe on a piece of plasterboard. Place a small bit of lath on the top of the rivets wherever the bend is and hit the lath rather than the actual trowel

 

[spunky]

Do you have to put coins under each corner of the trowel or did I dream that bit?

 

[henry]

never used a plazzie trowel gibbo, I have 3 black rags I like them good work horse.

 

[essexandy]

i sat there for a while today with an oil stone some sand paper and a tin of wd40 cleaning my one up today andy but i think more work is needed still before i let it loose on finish

I spent less than ten minutes with my oil stone before letting my current carbon loose on the skim with no problems.

 

[Jace]

mines been sitting in the bottom of a bag for years haha its a bit worse for wear haha the blades cleaned up nicley just need to sort the shape out mate it keeps snatching the wall

 

[stuart23]

My ss marshalltown gold came today but the handle is red and black and not red and gold like my other ones. The blade looks a bit darker like the gold one does, is this normal or have i been sent wrong one?

 

[essexandy]

My ss marshalltown gold came today but the handle is red and black and not red and gold like my other ones. The blade looks a bit darker like the gold one does, is this normal or have i been sent wrong one?

Sounds like a wrongun