Is this going off a sample? Because the finish is like any other finish, they must be looking at these new houses in a brochure with the sun shining and the beach in the background lol then you have your colour chart and they mustn't realise you can buy these same colour paints.
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People like it I agree but I don't think they will in five years time but who is gonna warn them
If a scratch render is sealed on completion with a good quality sealer on completion Ie paraguard or eneguard, then it will not green over regardless if it's in the shade or north facing etc, it stops the growth of any alge on the surface as it has an anti growth in it that prevent this, so spors won't grow on it.
As regards cleaning it, look at at using sugar soap with A bit of pressure, or a cleaning agent like parex Lanko mousse.
As regards cleaning it, look at at using sugar soap with A bit of pressure, or a cleaning agent like parex Lanko mousse.
keithuk
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i have be doing it for 10 years now ,i,m sure there are lads on here been doing it a lot longer ,it just seem popular in my part of KentPeople like it I agree but I don't think they will in five years time but who is gonna warn them
I done my first one 26 years ago, I think it was called colour rend, I drove past it a few weeks ago and it looks better than most I've seen now apart from what the vent and overflow pipe has caused. @owls what about the fumes from traffic and the other problems I mentioned, Does it stop the build up from them?
keithuk
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When i saying" doing it ",not like 2/3 a year mate
I know it's your main job I wasn't getting at that but it has been around a long time and the same issues and problems are the same.
keithuk
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I think as said if you tell customers from the start that it will need painting,, i dont really get it mate ,makes be sound like some chancer
Yep it's a common problem the sulphur from the metal bleeding down the substrate, they should always be stainless steel.
I can honestly say I haven't seen anything that still looks as good as it did the day it was done after five years. Drive through Holme in Manchester or any other development over ten years old and you would be shocked. I was in Manchester last week and there are building that were not there five years ago and they look shocking and I mean shocking especially around Manchester city's ground. It's one of the busiest roads I recon in Manchester and the houses look like they need redevelopment, why architects push this in certain areas can only be down to cost coz it doesn't make sense sometimes.
So to the customer they want something they don't need to paint? I always tell them it will need painting and it's not all it claims to be and I rarely get the job lol they would rather someone either doesn't tell them or tells them a pack of lies. I was talking to a customer about his rendering I was gonna price for then he mentioned what lighting he was having so I warned him about the shadows the lights will show. I guarantee he won't tell the wife, I won't get the job and the poor c**t who does it will get shafted when the lights are switched on.
Sand and cement wasn't originally supposed to be painted but it is now and it's down to the quality of paint and primers. They need redoing over time but everyone knows that I just think people think they have a maintenance free render and they don't when they choose mono.
keithuk
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Ok mate ,fill your boots
Vincey
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Hi whatever is outside will need maintenance in any country I notice your house looks fine but my experience of dwarf/any walls in gardens weather it mono or sand and cement that is painted will need maintenance just the same as cars wheelie bins slabs even if it was just bricks they all would need a clean.
You have been given some great advise how to go about resolving a decorative finish which IMO always looks better than bricks.
These coloured scratched back renders work really in continental climates. However they just seem unable to cope with the amount of warm damp weather we get here, no antifungal or sealing agents I have come across solve this problem. Eventually they will all end up being painted. With the price of good sand these days , client is out of pocket for very little anyhows.
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Garden walls in mono look the business
When new ! seen a few ,
With same issue , no drip mould on coping so
Water run off , straight down face of render
Had a similar issue on a wall
I would
Algae cleaner
& or if looking to paint
a product called mendrend penetrating acrylic paint , they will colour match your render
When new ! seen a few ,
With same issue , no drip mould on coping so
Water run off , straight down face of render
Had a similar issue on a wall
I would
Algae cleaner
& or if looking to paint
a product called mendrend penetrating acrylic paint , they will colour match your render
bobspread
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Its a good job we've got thin coat then!Always said this gear is not suitable for this country, looks good to start but the main benefit of not having to paint is not true in most cases. If they f**k it off in this country, plastering will be even more f**k*d coz no one will be able to use sand and cement
BigK
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BigK
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It has a name for being hard to use yes, but IMO is far superior finished job to that chalky weber stuff. (Don't lean against it in your good jacket)
P.s. The newer k rend is a price of piss in comparison to the old xp, and like I say nearly double the length of guarantee!
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BigK
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Did my first one around then, thought mine was called cemrend
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Could of been, I remember we had a fire going below it the next day coz it was frosty and we were rubbing it up
some c**t threw some plastic conduit in the fire and the fumes nearly killed us lolYeah we did a swimming pool in isle of dogs circa. 1989/90 Cemrend was the name alright.
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FreeD
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I can't understand how renderers can carry out a job like that without having the common sense to replace the copings first...we do it on every job...put 14 or 16s on and never had problems like this. I guess most just don't give a sh*t by the time it's dirt chq will have long cleared.
jamesthefirst
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How many would seal as a standard finish in the price or have it as an optional extra?
FreeD
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Optional extra bud
Always seal it as standard, price it in.
Can't people just get the guy who pressure washes the drive way to give the render a blast?? Or when they get their brush out to wash the car give the wall a scrub. Iv never tried to clean algae off of mono but that's what people do to all other algae on brick walls or patios.
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