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Danny said:
bonkers isnt it....
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Think this is the point a want to make is as a business what ever it is you do you have to make lets say £750 -£1000 a week to live after tax.
Plasterers struggle to say to a customer a hourly rate of £25 cuz alot of public don't see them as a business and the plasterers that aren't really plasterers will go in at £80 a day which leaves 'proper' business plasterers degraded..which is probably why course's are scene as ' bad' CUs they are presumed as the ones going in at that kind of price,which is all part of the crazy trade world a electrician can do the plastering but the plasterer won't touch the electrics.. There's no way to stop it, all you can do is stick to what you know is right otherwise you might as well do nails training and get £25 a hour.
 
Hicky said:
He may have told a few porkies there Malc, fair play that he ended up doing well for himself, but the army doesnt send blokes on leave for a year on full pay.
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that was what lou said several times that he was on leave for a year.
years ago it was not unusual to have squaddies working on colchester building sites as casual workers as the contractors paid out in cash every thursday.
 
Lodan said:
Everyone in any trade you're not in earns more than you do(y)
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I would never talk about what I earn to anyone.
Some one also in business said to me once never discuss how much you earn to any folk
It's not the thing to do in my eyes
If people know your doing well word gets around and people treat you different
 
bobby said:
I rarely work on a hourly rate.always give them a cost meaning £25ph is at atchievable if your decent and have guys on
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I don't give hourly just price..was just trying to give example of working out a living wage of any self employed business bobby and how Coursers might seem to lower the price charged.
Was a bit of a whoffle really but kind of true.
 
Danny said:
Also never let your customers know the car you drive :D
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it can work both ways. we done a large job last year for jaguar cars after i turned up to quote in my jag. we also had work off a classic car company and other jag owners. people who have something in common. i have been to quote a domestic job and the wife asks take me for a drive in your car, leaving the husband at home to look after the kids.
a local builder saw me driving about, he was late making his payment, i knew that was going to happen as soon as he spotted me.
 
malc said:
it can work both ways. we done a large job last year for jaguar cars after i turned up to quote in my jag. we also had work off a classic car company and other jag owners. people who have something in common. i have been to quote a domestic job and the wife asks take me for a drive in your car, leaving the husband at home to look after the kids.
a local builder saw me driving about, he was late making his payment, i knew that was going to happen as soon as he spotted me.
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yep absolutely
 
Nice to hear of a fellow forest fan....me and the wife had season tickets till the baby came along.
 
Arti said:
I did........................Done a 6 week plastering course as part of my resettlement from leaving the army 2005 and been self employed since 2006. Place was called PATS in Salisbury The plastering & Artexing Training school.

It was quite new back then but companies were sprouting up all over the country as the building trade was booming. They were cashing in big time from ex military it was the " Can't get a tradesmen for love or money" plasterers were getting £ 150-£200 a day up here now bother. I will conceed that my brother -in-law was a plasterer and i didnt work for him for 6 months doing conservatories when i left. did plenty agency graft before going it alone, started of doing small jobs and working with other spreads till i could handle bigger jobs

The qual i got was the old C&G ICA intermediate construction award Plastering covered way more stuff than the apprentice i took on doing his NVQ. he did zero rendering/fiborous/eml.

http://www.plastering-artexing-training-school.co.uk/

The company went under in the recession, not many survived i don't think. Able skills was another company.

https://www.ctp.org.uk/resettlement-courses/searchresults

May be @Danny can do an expose on my for plasterers news...............(y)

when i was ringing around for a job i couldn't get a start because i didnt have the years in the trade even though i had a recognised qual so it was a bit of a catch 22.

Clearly i knew f**k all after 6 weeks but i didnt know any better and like mentioned we all have to start somewhere. What i lacked in trade skill i made up for in life skills and bumming jokes
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You fcuking courser Arti Grrrr :mad:
You conned us, now go an join the courser forum :burlas:
 
I did a course because there were no apprenticeships available for someone of my age. I did phone some local plasterers and asked if I enrolled at college would they give me some work experience but none would. A course seemed the only way forward. I've had steady work since but know there's a long road ahead.
 
bobby said:
I would never talk about what I earn to anyone.
Some one also in business said to me once never discuss how much you earn to any folk
It's not the thing to do in my eyes
If people know your doing well word gets around and people treat you different
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If they treat you different they arnt worth knowing.. Always confused me when people dont wanna talk about what they earn, if someone is loaded and I'm not I really couldnt give a s**t, good on them I say!
 
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people used to treat me different when i couldn't spray rendaid......................Now im the mother fewkin man...........................:musculoso:
 
Jay1988 said:
I pay nearly £500 a year to be a member of the niceic, have my work scrutinised by an assessor once a year, and theres still thousands of people who do their own electrical work that isn't safe/not upto regs & still don't get a certificate. This 'part p' b*ll***s was suppised to stop all this, just another way for someone to make a fortune. Not to mention having to buy certs, new regs books, have testers calibrated yearly.

As freeD says, plastering materials are way cheaper, profit margin is massive compared to sparking on the domestic side anyway.
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That's gripe I've got with part p yer electrical store anybody walking in buying twin n earth consumer units as you said above on pricing a job to take you say a week for both trades profits are very similar
Plastering is the one I get more satisfaction out of well except when the Mrs is up for a full ten minutes foreplay n :bananas:
 
bobby said:
A friend of mine earns £11 ph on the books as a plumber
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theplasterman said:
But plumber can turn up with a boiler in the van and they have at least £200 -£500 profit on the boiler as they walk through the door.if I put a mark up on a bag of skim I might make £1.50 on it.unless I nicked it £6.50
Sorry for going off thread topic.
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All trades have there pluses and minuses, sometimes I do wonder if one real hold up for plasterers is keeping clean, but the time we spend keeping clean electricians and plumbers are constantly driving between jobs doing first and second fix.

As far as earnings go I doubt plumbers and electricians earn more than a decent plasterer would between £40000 and £50000.
 
FreeD said:
All trades have there pluses and minuses, sometimes I do wonder if one real hold up for plasterers is keeping clean, but the time we spend keeping clean electricians and plumbers are constantly driving between jobs doing first and second fix.

As far as earnings go I doubt plumbers and electricians earn more than a decent plasterer would between £40000 and £50000.
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Hahahahahaha :risas2:
 
Arti said:
TBH av learned shitloads off here specially about mono (which their is no money in by the way).
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You taking the piss...if you are not making good money using a machine and spraying mono you are doing something wrong.
 
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