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Right all banter aside Flynny so basically there no bullshit coming out my mouth, read side by side looks like you agree with everything I say ? Only difference there is one has explained medium to high suction control and the other hasn't
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Your agreeing with my post and you have said a lot more than that tiny bit but let's just look at the bullshit in your thread, it's. Its not a third coat it's a top up coat lol
 
British Gypsum's crusade to convert us to double priced finish has yet again failed.
The ironic thing is they will still happily flog you a 60 quid tub of tack to prime a dodgy wall with.
All a bit sad and desperate really ...
 
British Gypsum's crusade to convert us to double priced finish has yet again failed.
The ironic thing is they will still happily flog you a 60 quid tub of tack to prime a dodgy wall with.
All a bit sad and desperate really ...


What is sad and desperate is hstokes customer still having half a ceiling, that alone should prevent anyone from using unifinish, it also goes to show what the guarantee would be like.
 
I don't get the waiting around for pva to dry. First thing I do at a job is sheets out then pva. I then get drill and everything else out van and all other prep done and then it's ready to go

Me and you are quite the opposite....
I dont use pva until the very end.
I plaster walls first then pva before i leave to help the next fellow spread re-skim my works.
 
And when I said they didn't care about little Mrs Jones ceiling on a domestic I got a few dislikes
 
This will now open loads of questions about the scheme yet again do they only rush out cos it's a job from the scheme or what cos @hstoke had a major failure yet I'm gonna say 5 weeks later no closer to a conclusion this sort of stuff can ruin a 1 man band and not down to his own fault we have to face the customer of job goes wrong it's easy on the phone to say yeah we will look then get back to you
 
Bg commenting?
If I were the client I'd be on the phone to them.
This might be damaging to @hstoke, the least bg can do is speed it all up. IMO.


It has become a PR disaster for them, knowing it was knowledge on here of a potential failure they were reasonably quick to have someone out to investigate, but then the wall of silence.
Any one of us could of determined what went wrong inside 5mins, you only need to see the back of the plaster, if it's clean then it never adhered to the surface.
All this has done for me is highlighted how there scheme is flawed and nothing more than a sham.

For me until this is resolved satisfactorily then any member still buying uni ( if they can find any) is a mug IMO.
 
It has become a PR disaster for them, knowing it was knowledge on here of a potential failure they were reasonably quick to have someone out to investigate, but then the wall of silence.
Any one of us could of determined what went wrong inside 5mins, you only need to see the back of the plaster, if it's clean then it never adhered to the surface.
All this has done for me is highlighted how there scheme is flawed and nothing more than a sham.

For me until this is resolved satisfactorily then any member still buying uni ( if they can find any) is a mug IMO.
That's just nonsense mate. You've got neophobia. Youre a luddite basically. I use uni regularly and now wouldn't use anything else over artex. This is how many failures of the product? One? Maybe the fault is down to the OP? But it is too expensive.
 
That's just nonsense mate. You've got neophobia. Youre a luddite basically. I use uni regularly and now wouldn't use anything else over artex. This is how many failures of the product? One? Maybe the fault is down to the OP? But it is too expensive.


It's totally correct mate, the issue should of been long sorted.

Uni 1 was recalled then not long after uni 2 is released. How many failures lol it's failed at every level, no one wants to stock it because no one wants to buy it, we know of two failures I would imagine more, in that time zero pva and multi failures.
 
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It's totally correct mate, the issue should of been long sorted.

Uni 1 was recalled then not long after uni 2 is released. How many failures lol it's failed at every level, no one wants to stock it because no one wants to but it, we know of two failures I would imagine more, in that time zero pva and multi failures.
Really? Without trying to stoke your fire as always I'll be honest and stick to facts.. I myself have never had a failure with unifinish , that is my honest true word.
I was also honest enough to say on another thread while being a member on here I have seen 2 posted (1 of which was stokes ) in total of unifinish, as with both we all know nothing can be concluded as to why if we are not there but anyway to my point,
Seems your determined to slander a product that you yourself say you never use, have you an agenda here ?
I saw somebody post a job they did few weeks ago, whole side of a house render they did, which had all completely come off , no one really was bothered about that, in fact I think the op actually said himself "s**t happens " sometimes.
Anyways you say pva and multi no failures so I'll leave you the thread link maybe give you time to read it and actually maybe be honest,
http://www.plasterersforum.com/threads/pva-failure.63425/
 
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Really? Without trying to stoke your fire as always I'll be honest and stick to facts.. I myself have never had a failure with unifinish , that is my honest true word.
I was also honest enough to say on another thread while being a member on here I have seen 2 posted (1 of which was stokes ) in total of unifinish, as with both we all know nothing can be concluded as to why if we are not there but anyway to my point,
Seems your determined to slander a product that you yourself say you never use, have you an agenda here ?
I saw somebody post a job they did few weeks ago, whole side of a house render they did, which had all completely come off , no one really was bothered about that, in fact I think the op actually said himself "s**t happens " sometimes.
Anyways you say pva and multi no failures so I'll leave you the thread link maybe give you time to read it and actually maybe be honest,
http://www.plasterersforum.com/threads/pva-failure.63425/
I've Had a pva failure earlier this year. Not a big one, but a failure none the less. Just small nib up the side of a doorway, don't know why if failed, the 3ceilings and rest of that wall and other wall were all fine. That wee strip just blew off. Builder thought possible leak down that corner from the roof.
 
Really? Without trying to stoke your fire as always I'll be honest and stick to facts.. I myself have never had a failure with unifinish , that is my honest true word.
I was also honest enough to say on another thread while being a member on here I have seen 2 posted (1 of which was stokes ) in total of unifinish, as with both we all know nothing can be concluded as to why if we are not there but anyway to my point,
Seems your determined to slander a product that you yourself say you never use, have you an agenda here ?
I saw somebody post a job they did few weeks ago, whole side of a house render they did, which had all completely come off , no one really was bothered about that, in fact I think the op actually said himself "s**t happens " sometimes.
Anyways you say pva and multi no failures so I'll leave you the thread link maybe give you time to read it and actually maybe be honest,
http://www.plasterersforum.com/threads/pva-failure.63425/page-2



Agenda ? None at all, the fact is no one stocks it really, I never see either thread the render or the pva fail, but look if it fails with pva it's very simple, no need for another plasterer or rep to come and check it's just redone end of.
Now with uni and as hstoke has found out to his cost it's a grey area that doesn't get a resolution very quickly, affecting him and his customer.

But here is what I hate and why I continue to knock it, it's the false claims
It doesn't save any time
It doesn't require a special skill set

Additionally, it's overpriced I doubt it costs anymore to produce than board or multi
It should also say it's for artex only and silky/glossy paints, because it's absolutely dog sh it over Matt painted walls.
 
I've Had a pva failure earlier this year. Not a big one, but a failure none the less. Just small nib up the side of a doorway, don't know why if failed, the 3ceilings and rest of that wall and other wall were all fine. That wee strip just blew off. Builder thought possible leak down that corner from the roof.


Or maybe that area never got pva'd
 
If it wasn't pva'd then id have said it was a fail not a pva fail..... It was pva'd the same way the rest of the walls and ceilings were.
 
It's totally correct mate, the issue should of been long sorted.

Uni 1 was recalled then not long after uni 2 is released. How many failures lol it's failed at every level, no one wants to stock it because no one wants to buy it, we know of two failures I would imagine more, in that time zero pva and multi failures.


I stand corrected my hands are held high, it seems some have had multi failures, I shall say this however do your prep properly and thoroughly and no failures.
 
I stand corrected my hands are held high, it seems some have had multi failures, I shall say this however do your prep properly and thoroughly and no failures.
Like I mentioned, the builder thought perhaps a leak in the roof possibly got down that corner and caused it to blow. Don't know, alls I know is that small strip blew off.
 
If Uni was the same price and available as Multi is I wonder how many blokes would pick it over PVA/Multi....obviously for the certain required background?
 
Tbh I don't think I would trust uni, wouldn't feel right coating without pvaing, and on high suction apparently you have to pva anyways. Over artex, stipple, etc, I tend to prefer to bond over stuff like that anyways, so would use normal finish over the bonding.
 
Tbh I don't think I would trust uni, wouldn't feel right coating without pvaing, and on high suction apparently you have to pva anyways. Over artex, stipple, etc, I tend to prefer to bond over stuff like that anyways, so would use normal finish over the bonding.
Do you prime for the bonding?
 
If Uni was the same price and available as Multi is I wonder how many blokes would pick it over PVA/Multi....obviously for the certain required background?
It would of been the best seller, the formula is near as dam it carlite that's probably why others like it over board or pretreatment,it's clean, creamy and smooth and I'll agree with Flynny and GPs it's over priced,
Think it was @thebearbeef that suggested it just be sold as the new multi and he is right it would be happy days for everyone
 
It would of been the best seller, the formula is near as dam it carlite that's probably why others like it over board or pretreatment,it's clean, creamy and smooth and I'll agree with Flynny and GPs it's over priced,
Think it was @thebearbeef that suggested it just be sold as the new multi and he is right it would be happy days for everyone
Pretty sure I might of mentioned it to him :)
 
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