When to s*p*r*lex
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johniosaif
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Not for laying on first coat or flattening , not for second coat or first flatten . After this you can use the super flex
Arti
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Pepper pigs fatha?
S a plastering
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I scratch on with normal trowel lay In with normal trowel then give my first flatten with normal trowel then after that all the way with the nela this works for me
johniosaif
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This doesn't make any sense. Are saying because you can't use them they are no good ?
johniosaif
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Best way to be, if I wasn't so fukked ,I'd return to old school skim, quality was better
keithuk
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Is it right John teaching all these lads starting of to use 10 different tools to do the job ?,I just don't get it
Why lol
johniosaif
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No,it's not right, but we will be mocked as dinosaurs for saying it, people are seeking magic solutions to plastering and there isn't any for hand applied and finished applications, the s*p*r*lex is handy in the right hands ,is it quicker,I don't believe so, does it save the bones ,I believe so, is quality the same,I don't believe so.
keithuk
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You are one of the few that are honest John
PLASDUA
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How many wet trowels does it need (if any) and do you let it go off more than usual before trowelling?
PLASDUA
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So at my age (23) I should just stick to my mt or nela premium, takes same amount of time and get a better finish?
scottie5
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Sorry john dont agree I will leave a finish like it grew there with a s*p*r*lex. my old man retired at the end of last year gutted that these types of trowel weren't available 45years ago.
To say these trowels leave a finish inferior to any other trowel type is nonsense.
A trowel on its own has never left a bad job.
To say these trowels leave a finish inferior to any other trowel type is nonsense.
A trowel on its own has never left a bad job.
JohnDoe
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Your work does look bob on from the picture I've seen mate, no idea how you do it with s*p*r*lex. My finish is only bob on with mt.
johniosaif
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You can argue the pros and cons ,I think the pros are definitely easier on the body,the cons is some spreads will leave a lesser quality finish, the trowel glides over rather than diminishes bumps or imperfections,
Plastererjonesy84
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I was gonna ask what super flex or flex trowel would most go for as the masses aren't normally wrong but reading all these I don't think there would an answer! Do u guys think the speed skim is worth it while I'm at it? [emoji28]
johniosaif
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Lots of spreads are second coating with the superflexes if not first coating ,I have watched many very experienced plasterers over the years and often prayed that they wouldn't pick up my trowel, I can see these guys killing a s*p*r*lex in a forth night.
keithuk
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But if any one says that John ,it because they are using it wrong !
johniosaif
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The recession has led to a drop in quality,the guys on £1.50 to £2.50 a m cut so many corners and got away with it that there is no way back, from one coating sponging etc, would of been ridiculed once but now there out and proud.
Well yes, if you cant get a perfect finish with a tool when others can, surely the person that can't achieve a perfect finish is using it wrong? Or is the trowel at fault?
keithuk
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I take it you have one ?lol
scottie5
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Having spent over 25years on mainly site work, I can say categorically that it is never the trowel but the man holding it.
iv seen appalling work done with most trowels available tyzack's mt's Diston's and s*p*r*lex's but in turn seen all these in the hands of competent plasterers turn out absolutely mint work aswell.
iv seen appalling work done with most trowels available tyzack's mt's Diston's and s*p*r*lex's but in turn seen all these in the hands of competent plasterers turn out absolutely mint work aswell.
Plasterers1StopShop
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Some people won't like one, some will. But to say it's the trowels fault that someone doesn't leave a good finish is an interesting thing to say.
The NELA s*p*r*lex is purely designed as a finishing trowel. As for following / riding over imperfections or bumps, surely this should have been eliminated previous to finishing?
The NELA s*p*r*lex is purely designed as a finishing trowel. As for following / riding over imperfections or bumps, surely this should have been eliminated previous to finishing?
JohnDoe
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But that's like me saying because I can get a bob on finish one coating with the sponge that means am not rough and everyone else is pants because they can't do it?
johniosaif
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Mm, when we skim ,we bang on 40/50 m a time,there can be bits missed not nescessarily by myself but as a team.the marshalltown trowel and a water brush flattens and fills any small imperfections ,the s*p*r*lex does not and will not, if you put a tiny dot of plaster on a wall the s*p*r*lex will ride over it and leave it like squashed chewing gum On a pavement ,of course we can all write perfection but the reality, bullshit is as big a part of the game as skill ..
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