The Half Time Bucket Test

[Vincey]

So I wonder if I use 1 pack to a bag and one coat skim will I get it down to a hour set. Still think it should be only £2 to a 25kg bag tho

Hey Keith I recon the one coater crew (and I mean just one coat) per bag with one sachet in will achieve set and finish at 45-55 minutes, I only 2 coated with same gear as I don't one coat regular and poo my pants when I do, tbh the one coaters will be rocking with this half time it's all normal with the plaster till 30 minutes when the gear is on then it's get your skates on, flatten and finish, first few I'll admit caught me out as I realised 30 minutes you have to be on it or your stuffed

 

[zolco]

But with dirty water u don't know how long u have it's inconsistent

Just taking the Mickey out of someone who has one

 

[zolco]

3 quid a sachet mate! and you need 2 to every 25kg bag of gear. That's £6 on top of every bag of plaster.

You can get it for 1.60+vat

 

[Cockney1]

You can get it for 1.60+vat

Where's that mate? On their site it's £29 for 10 sachets.

 

[zolco]

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Where's that mate? On their site it's £29 for 10 sachets. Just look up Ellis building products i think that's their name

I'm not sure if I can post the link you know flynny bites for it.

 

[Maester]

Hey Keith I recon the one coater crew (and I mean just one coat) per bag with one sachet in will achieve set and finish at 45-55 minutes, I only 2 coated with same gear as I don't one coat regular and poo my pants when I do, tbh the one coaters will be rocking with this half time it's all normal with the plaster till 30 minutes when the gear is on then it's get your skates on, flatten and finish, first few I'll admit caught me out as I realised 30 minutes you have to be on it or your stuffed

What does it look and taste like?
Does it taste salty?
Is it alum?

http://fibrehandshop.co.uk/plaster-accelerator-437-p.asp

 

[zombie]

Hey Keith I recon the one coater crew (and I mean just one coat) per bag with one sachet in will achieve set and finish at 45-55 minutes, I only 2 coated with same gear as I don't one coat regular and poo my pants when I do, tbh the one coaters will be rocking with this half time it's all normal with the plaster till 30 minutes when the gear is on then it's get your skates on, flatten and finish, first few I'll admit caught me out as I realised 30 minutes you have to be on it or your stuffed

That's me sorted then!

 

[Vincey]

That's me sorted then!

I'm of the same thinking mate ceilings in and out at last we'll be on render dude rates

 

[jamesthefirst]

What does it look and taste like?
Does it taste salty?
Is it alum?

http://fibrehandshop.co.uk/plaster-accelerator-437-p.asp

There's no description of timings etc with this, how did you find it when you used it?

 

[Ashleyscoob]

i used it on a ceiling yesterday 2 coats took 1 hour 10 from start to finish just remixed second coat a bit wetter as it was going in bucket was nice to trowel
ideal for me as we do lots of bathroom ceilings for a company and fed up of waiting around for stuff to go off

 

[BigK]

Why would one coat finish quicker than 2 coats of the same gear?


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[Vincey]

Hi mate, you make a valid point there , so on guide lines it says one sachet to 12kg of plaster I tried that on 5 mixes sound SETS very fast, then I tried upping the amount of plaster slightly to 3/4 or one full bag always checking time to set and recording set times over different surfaces, boards were consistent set and old reskim surface varied slightly, pva, gyprime, micro 3000 plus obviously the age of surface and conditions in rooms , spoke to the eazymix guy about this and confirmed it's all down to us to use and find out ourselves as the guide on bag is overall guide , so maybe I not be right it set faster with one coat only but hopefully I am.
Tbh really looking forward to everyone's use of it see how everyone gets on.
Used approximately 10 in multi and 10 in board finish and they all came back at average 60 minutes

 

[eazymix]

f**k that. Sure that's a load of b*ll***s. He made a big massive mistake on his pricing that's f**k**g ridiculous. £2 a pack that would do a 25kg bag would be more like it.

Hi clemo it,s mark from eazymix halftime is only £2 per bag from merchants and even cheaper from the one stop plaster shop you can add one bag of halftime to a full bag and it will still set it in just over an hour has been tested so if your skimming a small ceiling just put the extra cost on the job do,nt think £2 makes you l,ose the job

 

[eazymix]

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Where's that mate? On their site it's £29 for 10 sachets.

Hi mark from eazymix you can get halftime cheaper through the one stop plaster shop it is on my site for slightly more but i have to pay postage.still think £2.90 extra on a small job wo,nt lose you the job plaster is cheap if it is a one bag job charge the customer £10 all in for materials you can be on your way home in an hour done and dusted

 

[BigK]

Hi clemo it,s mark from eazymix halftime is only £2 per bag from merchants and even cheaper from the one stop plaster shop you can add one bag of halftime to a full bag and it will still set it in just over an hour has been tested so if your skimming a small ceiling just put the extra cost on the job do,nt think £2 makes you l,ose the job

You're right there, but I feel you're missing a trick.
Lads on site would use this at their own expense. (More regularly/ more output)
But won't at these prices.


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[theclemo]

Hi clemo it,s mark from eazymix halftime is only £2 per bag from merchants and even cheaper from the one stop plaster shop you can add one bag of halftime to a full bag and it will still set it in just over an hour has been tested so if your skimming a small ceiling just put the extra cost on the job do,nt think £2 makes you l,ose the job

That's more like it Mark. Extra time has helped me out b4. But I can really do with halftime a lot more. I'll be buying it at that price

 

[Cockney1]

Hi mark from eazymix you can get halftime cheaper through the one stop plaster shop it is on my site for slightly more but i have to pay postage.still think £2.90 extra on a small job wo,nt lose you the job plaster is cheap if it is a one bag job charge the customer £10 all in for materials you can be on your way home in an hour done and dusted

Hi mark, that's fair enough on small jobs it might work out ok? (I will defo give it a go!) I would prefer to use something that's consistent like that all day everyday though? and was just saying at them prices it works out quite a bit extra every day and by the end of the week a lot. I Still know a drop of dirty water will have the same effect on small jobs. By the way I'm guessing you have never done any domestic plastering because I Wish I was in and out of jobs in an hour cause it takes that to sheet up, prep and get tools in and set up alone sometimes!!

 

[eazymix]

Hi mark, that's fair enough on small jobs it might work out ok? (I will defo give it a go!) I would prefer to use something that's consistent like that all day everyday though? and was just saying at them prices it works out quite a bit extra every day and by the end of the week a lot. I Still know a drop of dirty water will have the same effect on small jobs. By the way I'm guessing you have never done any domestic plastering because I Wish I was in and out of jobs in an hour cause it takes that to sheet up, prep and get tools in and set up alone sometimes!!

i know what you mean i am a domestic spread and yea it does take a lot of prep time setting up and cleaning after But can fully trowel up in an hour so a lot quicker

 

[Gibbo]

 

[Deleted member 29624]

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Anyone used this?

 

[flynnyman]

Anyone used this?

It was common to use it back in the day to gauge your mix, that was before modern plasters came in to get rid of it and give us a near perfect time for drying

 

[Deleted member 29624]

It was common to use it back in the day to gauge your mix, that was before modern plasters came in to get rid of it and give us a near perfect time for drying

I meant has anyone used it to speed mixes up like the halftime does

 

[flynnyman]

I meant has anyone used it to speed mixes up like the halftime does

That's what it was used for years ago.

 

[flynnyman]

http://www.plastermaster.com/beer plaster.html

 

[Ronnie]

Has anybody used half time and extra time in the same gauge see if it go'sback to normal

 

[Maester]

They might introduce past time, dreamtime, playtime?

 

[flynnyman]

They might introduce past time, dreamtime, playtime?

Or wasteoftime

 

[Vincey]

Whatever it is I'm hooked, banged out an artex overskim yesterday knocked off 1 hour to 1.5 hour worth of time on that job, god bless yah

 

[Maester]

Whatever it is I'm hooked, banged out an artex overskim yesterday knocked off 1 hour to 1.5 hour worth of time on that job, god bless yah

Was that with Unifinish? Is it okay with Unifinish? I've still got 8 bags in the van. And fourteen bags of of browning that's two months out of date.

 

[Maester]

Fifty pence a bag. That's why I've got it. It's nice gear. Been that long since I've used it.

 

[Vincey]

Was that with Unifinish? Is it okay with Unifinish? I've still got 8 bags in the van. And fourteen bags of of browning that's two months out of date.

No mate it was board finish ,I've not tried it with unifinish yet , omg that would be heaven

 

[Vincey]

Was that with Unifinish? Is it okay with Unifinish? I've still got 8 bags in the van. And fourteen bags of of browning that's two months out of date.

Tried it on board for you mate as a little tester , 2 coats same gear 45 minutes set and done half a bag and one sachet

Not fell off yet

 

[A.plasterer]

Tried it on board for you mate as a little tester , 2 coats same gear 45 minutes set and done half a bag and one sachet
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Not fell off yet

Have patience

 

[scottie5]

3 normal gauges today all done and dusted.
Now In the interests of research and also me quite liking money I'm going to be a lab rat/greedy bstard and spin a fourth gauge with a couple of satchets of secret sauce in.
It could go right tits up but he who dares and all that...

 

[A.plasterer]

3 normal gauges today all done and dusted.
Now In the interests of research and also me quite liking money I'm going to be a lab rat/greedy bstard and spin a fourth gauge with a couple of satchets of secret sauce in.
It could go right tits up but he who dares and all that...
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Prob best to have some wraps of amphetamine handy too in case it goes tits up , and YouTube it too