Make good multi skim any one managed to get any sort of consistent finish

Monkey Boy

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Make Good!? No need any more
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Skullduggery

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Had another go with it today. It's not as like someone remarked as forgiving as BG and the timings are different. I couldn't get lines out without adding water and the water just reactivates it again and you're back to square one. Parts are drying and others still wet. I can only assume this gear would be good over plasterboard. I would like to see people's work over artex and most jobs I've seen are over board where drying times are even. It don't touch BG for me even though it's had its own problems.
 

Billvis

New Member
Called in to P1 over lockdown for some render. This was the £30 for a bag of BG on on eBay era. Told by lad at counter that MG is great stuff, all comes from Turkey where the gypsum is purer than the stuff BG mine from East Leake (Loughborough way).

I used it today, and I'm really f#cked off. Gonna need to waste another day to 'make good'.

I don't buy this crap about new batches and formulations. It's clearly a cheap Turkish product, repackaged for the UK market by some Brummies.

I hate BG as much as the next man. Really hacked off all round.
 

Plasterers1StopShop

Private Member
Called in to P1 over lockdown for some render. This was the £30 for a bag of BG on on eBay era. Told by lad at counter that MG is great stuff, all comes from Turkey where the gypsum is purer than the stuff BG mine from East Leake (Loughborough way).

I used it today, and I'm really f#cked off. Gonna need to waste another day to 'make good'.

I don't buy this crap about new batches and formulations. It's clearly a cheap Turkish product, repackaged for the UK market by some Brummies.

I hate BG as much as the next man. Really hacked off all round.

If you used it today, and purchased during lockdown. I would firstly be questioning if it’s the new batch. And secondly if it’s in date.

Don’t get me wrong, the first stuff wasn’t right and we lost a fortune and sent a lot back! However, the new formulation is getting the right results
 

tapit

Well-Known Member
If you used it today, and purchased during lockdown. I would firstly be questioning if it’s the new batch. And secondly if it’s in date.

Don’t get me wrong, the first stuff wasn’t right and we lost a fortune and sent a lot back! However, the new formulation is getting the right results
I know how you feel.
 

savory05

New Member
Hi there, new poster, ex-plasterer, moved into fire stuff, cos, well, dermatitis, knackered knees, all that jazz!

Anyway, here's my experience with *cough* "Make Good" multi-skim... First off, yes, I think it's shite, might as well get that out of the way... Read the instructions on the bag, seemed simple enough, 1 coat, 2 coat, trowel, once it changes colour, final trowel, though I did note the "DO NOT APPLY FINAL TROWEL UNTIL IT CHANGES COLOUR" warning...

And yeah, well, I've been doing work on a new house, was in the box room, reskim, I had enough thistle pink gear left over from previous work, which I chucked on the ceiling, absolutely grand, trowelled in as expected, consistent throughout, never batted an eyelid, came out lovely... Then, I had to break into *cough* "Make Good"... Downhill from there...

Stuff is gluey and tacky, whatever you do, do not put on walls that are still have wet patches of PVA, no matter how much in a rush you are. Secondly, the setting time was immense for me, I put one wall on, 3.5hours later it was starting to change colour, attempted a bit of a trowel because there was still trowel marks because it seemed, even with a trowel lubed with a bit water, it sorta reactivates itself... So left it to fully change colour as in the instructions... And yeah, the t**t goes solid, I literally had to grind the arse off it to get it flat, well, thinking it was flat... After I did it, I thought "You know, it shouldnt be that hard, but that looks okay"... So, I carried on with the other existing walls (2 more), but decided to just tape the last wall that I had dabbed out... Usually with thistle gear on a room, I chuck adjacent sides on in one mix... I darent here, and yes, because I put each wall on one at a time, 12 hours in total it took with *cough* "make good", I would of been finished in 4-5 with thistle... Major difference there.

Hours later, All finished, all grinded down, I looked and thought "I may of got away with that", as, it didnt look too bad, dries to a matt finish... So, knackered, showered and then bed.

Next day, I had a look in, and just wondered to myself, "I wonder what it looks like under a torch"... I wished I didnt look, honest to god, it was rough mind, sun hitting that on a nice afternoon would of made a mudhut look the bee's knees, it was awful (Ceiling was still lovely mind)... I was gutted because I couldnt leave it, so, got a bucket of tapers cream and creamed and sanded the bloody lot... Retorched... Spot on!

I literally dont know what I could of done differently to get a decent finish on it, to my thistle standard anyway, it had me lost, and grafting like a good'un when it changed colour.

I'm just pleased I never did this in someones house, cos it'll made you look a right tit, in all honestly, I wouldnt be able to charge someone if under a torch it was leaving it that bad.

I was in B&Q the other day and noticed they had to pallets full sitting there, not surprising, I was speaking to one of their staff about it, and he said there was loads of complaints about it, and I was like "I'm not surprised, look at my hand" showing him my blisters, and then explaining even after that, I had to recoat it with other stuff.

Anyway, there's my experience with it, utter rubbish, never again... EVER!!! :D

/blog
Ye same here chap boards not too bad but still a bitch over skim a no no has troweled t the best I could the looked next day wtf!!! I had t use Ames to fill it out then sand it next day Wots that all about !!! Glad BG got the machines working again to produce multi finish I emailed them & they said it was lock down as we know & the machines had to be cleaned maintained etc then when they could go back it was minimal work force social distancing etc so that’s why we got no multi finish sounded about right to me anyway at least they got back to me email & as you said never again too right I’ll sit at home first imagine the customer looking at your work and thinking does he know what he is doing lol
 

swampy001

New Member
I used multi skim today it was awful, whats the use by date on the first batch, this bag was Jan 2021 i think, won't be using again, buying gyproc tomorrow....
 

Mhilton

New Member
Can any one say if they got a finish on make good multi . Patchy and rough . Hard to finish
Got some the other day. Piss easy to use. Don't understand the hate. I literally do every aspect of wall coating inside and out so I'm used to other kinds of materials to spread. I guess if youre used to doing only one thing then that might be why nobody can fathom it
 

johnh

Active Member
I used some more or less as soon as bg stopped supplying. So whether it was the new ,or old batch if there's a difference.
Been plastering 35 plus years. It reminded me of a veneer finish i think it was called.
Followed the video . Stuff took at least 4 hrs to finish. Seemed to go miles too.
Dried out patchy and very hard to get polished without wrecking your elbow.
Absolute load of crap.
A builder told me he'd seen it in b&q for 25p a bag. That says it all.
Bg must be pissing themselves
 

Mhilton

New Member
It's the easiest thing to use, what are you all on about? Some of you are saying " x amount of years experience" like it's a trophy. If you've any experience and can't use this then its tellng of how crap you are at your trade.

Is better overall than bg, we've just gotten so used to 1 product that we can't diversify.

I personally do every aspect if wall coating inside and out. From old lime plaster to Moroccan, venetian. Sand cement to acrylic render. Perhaps its the diversified skill set that helps me adapt easily to MG.

10p a bag, selling to customer for£10 a bag, im making some good mark up I can tell you.

Everywhere in the world uses purer gypsum than us and you're all basically saying we're the worst plasterers in the world because we refuse to adapt to purer gypsum.. says it all
 

Kinkyboy

Well-Known Member
It's the easiest thing to use, what are you all on about? Some of you are saying " x amount of years experience" like it's a trophy. If you've any experience and can't use this then its tellng of how crap you are at your trade.

Is better overall than bg, we've just gotten so used to 1 product that we can't diversify.

I personally do every aspect if wall coating inside and out. From old lime plaster to Moroccan, venetian. Sand cement to acrylic render. Perhaps its the diversified skill set that helps me adapt easily to MG.

10p a bag, selling to customer for£10 a bag, im making some good mark up I can tell you.

Everywhere in the world uses purer gypsum than us and you're all basically saying we're the worst plasterers in the world because we refuse to adapt to purer gypsum.. says it all
So you work for make good ye? Haha ffs its so obvious,and I charge about £30 per bag for multi to customers you nugget so if your charging £10 a bag that makes you a bigger fool.even if your buying for that id still charge £30+.back to buisness school for you wee man
 

johnh

Active Member
It's the easiest thing to use, what are you all on about? Some of you are saying " x amount of years experience" like it's a trophy. If you've any experience and can't use this then its tellng of how crap you are at your trade.

Is better overall than bg, we've just gotten so used to 1 product that we can't diversify.

I personally do every aspect if wall coating inside and out. From old lime plaster to Moroccan, venetian. Sand cement to acrylic render. Perhaps its the diversified skill set that helps me adapt easily to MG.

10p a bag, selling to customer for£10 a bag, im making some good mark up I can tell you.

Everywhere in the world uses purer gypsum than us and you're all basically saying we're the worst plasterers in the world because we refuse to adapt to purer gypsum.. says it all
Stop talking b*ll***s
 

zombie

Private Member
It's the easiest thing to use, what are you all on about? Some of you are saying " x amount of years experience" like it's a trophy. If you've any experience and can't use this then its tellng of how crap you are at your trade.

Is better overall than bg, we've just gotten so used to 1 product that we can't diversify.

I personally do every aspect if wall coating inside and out. From old lime plaster to Moroccan, venetian. Sand cement to acrylic render. Perhaps its the diversified skill set that helps me adapt easily to MG.

10p a bag, selling to customer for£10 a bag, im making some good mark up I can tell you.

Everywhere in the world uses purer gypsum than us and you're all basically saying we're the worst plasterers in the world because we refuse to adapt to purer gypsum.. says it all

Welcome aboard @makegoodsnake
 

hstoke

Well-Known Member
It's the easiest thing to use, what are you all on about? Some of you are saying " x amount of years experience" like it's a trophy. If you've any experience and can't use this then its tellng of how crap you are at your trade.

Is better overall than bg, we've just gotten so used to 1 product that we can't diversify.

I personally do every aspect if wall coating inside and out. From old lime plaster to Moroccan, venetian. Sand cement to acrylic render. Perhaps its the diversified skill set that helps me adapt easily to MG.

10p a bag, selling to customer for£10 a bag, im making some good mark up I can tell you.

Everywhere in the world uses purer gypsum than us and you're all basically saying we're the worst plasterers in the world because we refuse to adapt to purer gypsum.. says it all
Stick a vid of you finishing the stuff n show us how easy it is
 

Mhilton

New Member
How long that set take then?
Because the bags are nearing the end date, within 1 ½ hours, whether that is ideal or not depends on the plasterer. I however use something to dope it, and its not that Extra time that is far too expensive.

If you don't dope it, mix only one bag, that will cover the same amount as 2 BG bags. Only one coat, definitely do not 2 coat it, thats a scam to use more.

My process is:
Not doped: Apply 3mm +, run the spatula over it straight away after cleaning bucket. Then, instantly flatten it and get all lines out. Then, instantly polish it with water. But you want it all to be one colour (greyish). Takes a bit more effort to polish that BG. If you make mistakes or dents etc. Just mix a small amount and use it as filler, one strike and done.

Doped: Only use a teaspoon or your preferred item. Follow the same process as above but with time in between.

It can feel soft and you think I'll give it 10 more mins, all I'll say about that is, just test run a trowel over and see what you think.

I've seen on this thread the 1st batch was shite, I'm honestly 90% to mastering it. If the 2nd lot is a better mix then it'll be, hands down, superior in every way to bg.

BG stabbed us all in the back this year, and if we're honest, their products dry too fast in the summer, it tears, shrinks like f**k and the reat of its problems we ALL know about and will admit inside.

Everywhere MG product is imo superior except the boards. Avoid their plaster boards:
They come rippled to f**k
They snapp and aren't reinforced
Crumble
Just pure garbage, the ripples show through when you use even BG products on them.

Another thing to add is, MG finish has great body and levels out shite walls 10 times better, even 1 coat, than BG.


Use what ya want, but slate what you don't know
 

zombie

Private Member
Because the bags are nearing the end date, within 1 ½ hours, whether that is ideal or not depends on the plasterer. I however use something to dope it, and its not that Extra time that is far too expensive.

If you don't dope it, mix only one bag, that will cover the same amount as 2 BG bags. Only one coat, definitely do not 2 coat it, thats a scam to use more.

My process is:
Not doped: Apply 3mm +, run the spatula over it straight away after cleaning bucket. Then, instantly flatten it and get all lines out. Then, instantly polish it with water. But you want it all to be one colour (greyish). Takes a bit more effort to polish that BG. If you make mistakes or dents etc. Just mix a small amount and use it as filler, one strike and done.

Doped: Only use a teaspoon or your preferred item. Follow the same process as above but with time in between.

It can feel soft and you think I'll give it 10 more mins, all I'll say about that is, just test run a trowel over and see what you think.

I've seen on this thread the 1st batch was shite, I'm honestly 90% to mastering it. If the 2nd lot is a better mix then it'll be, hands down, superior in every way to bg.

BG stabbed us all in the back this year, and if we're honest, their products dry too fast in the summer, it tears, shrinks like f**k and the reat of its problems we ALL know about and will admit inside.

Everywhere MG product is imo superior except the boards. Avoid their plaster boards:
They come rippled to f**k
They snapp and aren't reinforced
Crumble
Just pure garbage, the ripples show through when you use even BG products on them.

Another thing to add is, MG finish has great body and levels out shite walls 10 times better, even 1 coat, than BG.


Use what ya want, but slate what you don't know

Dont suppose you can teach me how to use out of date carlite!
 

hstoke

Well-Known Member
Because the bags are nearing the end date, within 1 ½ hours, whether that is ideal or not depends on the plasterer. I however use something to dope it, and its not that Extra time that is far too expensive.

If you don't dope it, mix only one bag, that will cover the same amount as 2 BG bags. Only one coat, definitely do not 2 coat it, thats a scam to use more.

My process is:
Not doped: Apply 3mm +, run the spatula over it straight away after cleaning bucket. Then, instantly flatten it and get all lines out. Then, instantly polish it with water. But you want it all to be one colour (greyish). Takes a bit more effort to polish that BG. If you make mistakes or dents etc. Just mix a small amount and use it as filler, one strike and done.

Doped: Only use a teaspoon or your preferred item. Follow the same process as above but with time in between.

It can feel soft and you think I'll give it 10 more mins, all I'll say about that is, just test run a trowel over and see what you think.

I've seen on this thread the 1st batch was shite, I'm honestly 90% to mastering it. If the 2nd lot is a better mix then it'll be, hands down, superior in every way to bg.

BG stabbed us all in the back this year, and if we're honest, their products dry too fast in the summer, it tears, shrinks like f**k and the reat of its problems we ALL know about and will admit inside.

Everywhere MG product is imo superior except the boards. Avoid their plaster boards:
They come rippled to f**k
They snapp and aren't reinforced
Crumble
Just pure garbage, the ripples show through when you use even BG products on them.

Another thing to add is, MG finish has great body and levels out shite walls 10 times better, even 1 coat, than BG.


Use what ya want, but slate what you don't know
Get what yer saying on 1 coating as long as u do a stiff mix it’s still pliable but it’s just finishing - polishing n if you left any lines in ,it’s a c**t a ball breaker to get out u got to be neat with it
 
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