Is this acceptable?

Cammy0102

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In the future how do I select a good plasterer? Recommendations are no longer good enough (goes for all builder types).
Check they have some basic trade qualifications
Check if they are part of Checkatrde/trading standards?
Check their previous work - we actually did this with the current plasterers. However it was a new extension with new walls that they had skimmed, so would have been a straight forward job.

Does that rule quite a few of you out? ;)
 

jmoss5

Active Member
Here’s a wacky idea for you . Hack off the damp bonding and replace with material on rest of dry wall , lime render I suppose .
 

superspread

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No hardwall or British gypsum plasters should touch that external wall i see you have withheld £750, my free advice has finally run out if you want to know the best way and right products to use to get this job done properly it will cost £100, bank transfer will be fine
Nothing wrong with hardwall on external walls
 

Cammy0102

Member
Nothing wrong with hardwall on external walls
The guy originally suggested Hardwall to fill the 150cm x 30cm area (after removing Bonding his guys had added) next to the front door.
I suggested Limelite but he hasn't used that before so he's planning to use sand and cement. Would you choose Hardwall over sand and cement? If so why?
 
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superspread

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The guy originally suggested Hardwall to fill the 150cm x 30cm area (after removing Bonding his guys had added) next to the front door.
I suggested Limelite but he hasn't used that before so he's planning to use sand and cement. Would you choose Hardwall over sand and cement? If so why?
Either or really. I’d personally use hardwall , you can finish it same day ( you can s&c but not ideal) , softer material so a bit more forgiving to
Movement etc. but everyone to there own
 

Stewie03

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Yea, it replaced renovation plaster, unless bg have changed the spec again!
Not saying your wrong mate just never heard this before I would assume the external wall would have to be free of damp or had no damp problems previously to use hardwall I guess,you never had a come back either
 

superspread

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Not saying your wrong mate just never heard this before I would assume the external wall would have to be free of damp or had no damp problems previously to use hardwall I guess,you never had a come back either
Thing is stew , imo even if there was damp s&c won’t stop it , just prolongs it coming thru. 9.9 times out of 10 the walls are bone dry , obviously every situation needs to be taken on merit
 

RHardy

New Member
In the future how do I select a good plasterer? Recommendations are no longer good enough (goes for all builder types).
Check they have some basic trade qualifications
Check if they are part of Checkatrde/trading standards?
Check their previous work - we actually did this with the current plasterers. However it was a new extension with new walls that they had skimmed, so would have been a straight forward job.

Does that rule quite a few of you out? ;)
Depends on the job. Reviews and recommendations are good for basic skimming, but if its a more specialised job such as damp or lime, looking into previous work, pictures, asking the relevant questions when they quote is important
 

Retired Spread

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Na mate. I can’t be bullied by an old c**t like him. I feel sorry for him. Can’t be nice sitting in a piss stained bed sit with a beko fridge full of Aldi meals.
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Cammy0102

Member
So here's an update. The guy game today and he tried to bullshit me again and I called him out, there was an argument and he left. Also saw one of his guys emptying the bucket with dirty water in to the toilet after cleaing trowels and stuff. Don't think we'll have them in our house again. Obviously not paying him anymore but I've given him close to £4K already (probalby should have withheld more).

I bought a bolster chisel from Screwfix and starting hacking off the plaster next to the front door (the section that was not drying out) carefully. The skimming plaster and bonding still seemed wet, bonding in particular was like chalk and curmbling.

Will try to find another plasterer to re-do that section with Hardwall or Limelite then reskim. It's only a small section (about 150cm x 40cm area now). Does any of you want to do it? :p Chancers need not apply!
 
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spread95

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So here's an update. The guy game today and he tried to bullshit me again and I called him out, there was an argument and he left. Also saw one of his guys emptying the bucket with dirty water in to the toilet after cleaing trowels and stuff. Don't think we'll have them in our house again. Obviously not paying him anymore but I've given him close to £4K already (probalby should have withheld more).

I bought a bolster chisel from Screwfix and starting hacking off the plaster next to the front door (the section that was not drying out) carefully. The skimming plaster and bonding still seemed wet, bonding in particular was like chalk and curmbling.

Will try to find another plasterer to re-do that section with Hardwall or Limelite then reskim. It's only a small section (about 150cm x 40cm area now). Does any of you want to do it? :p Chancers need not apply!
As you've got £750 to finish the job I'd do it but unfortunately your a bit fussy ;)
 

Cammy0102

Member
As you've got £750 to finish the job I'd do it but unfortunately your a bit fussy ;)
Bit fussy? Jesus, I just want a decent job. Not expecting a perfect job (we are aware the old walls aren's straight) but there shouldn't be noticeable bulging in corners.
And not paying £750 buddy :p

We are going to have to give the decorator more money to straighten some of the crappy plastering the chancers have done and also he'll have to sand down a lot of corners.

Now we are worried that the plasterers have emptied a lot of water with plaster in it and we might have blocked drains which will potentially cost thousands of pounds to rectify (we have drains going under the kitchen extension and it has wooden flooring). If that were to happen we may have to take them to the courts. But that's another story. Cowboys :(
 
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Cammy0102

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So I've removed all the bonding (some of it was very wet, like a paste) and now it's back to the bricks. Area is about 150cm x 40cm. Needs to have Hardwall or Limitelite as the backing plaster and then reskim up to the rest of the wall.
I'm thinking it's less than a half a day's work. What would be a reasonable price?
 

spread95

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So I've removed all the bonding (some of it was very wet, like a paste) and now it's back to the bricks. Area is about 150cm x 40cm. Needs to have Hardwall or Limitelite as the backing plaster and then reskim up to the rest of the wall.
I'm thinking it's less than a half a day's work. What would be a reasonable price?
£749 :)
 

Cammy0102

Member
Being serious for a moment, do you have a damp issue, bonding should not go to paste!
The bricks look dry to me however it is right next to the front door frame. so wall might be getting a lot of moisture. Maybe I was exaggerating when I said it was like a paste, OK not that wet but it wasn't dry/hard.

Didn't notice any patches when the lining paper was there and don't remember seeing any damp/patches on the lime plaster that was there.
 

MakeItSmooth

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We are going to have to give the decorator more money to straighten some of the crappy plastering the chancers have done and also he'll have to sand down a lot of corners.

OK, so, just to clarify:

your decorator recommended you a sh1t plasterer who left your walls in a sh1t state, and you're now planning to reward that very same decorator for his sh1t recommendation, by paying him a sh1tload of extra cash to fix the sh1t work done by the sh1t plasterer he recommended?

Sounds like an excellent sh1t idea (y)
 

Cammy0102

Member
OK, so, just to clarify:

your decorator recommended you a sh1t plasterer who left your walls in a sh1t state, and you're now planning to reward that very same decorator for his sh1t recommendation, by paying him a sh1tload of extra cash to fix the sh1t work done by the sh1t plasterer he recommended?

Sounds like an excellent sh1t idea (y)
The decorator has done excellent work to be fair. Even though he recommended the guy (basically said he's worked with him in other projects and he's OK) he said he was happy for to go with any plasterer.

I just think it's not fair if he has to do all the work to sort out the plasterer's mess. He hasn't asked for extra money by the way, we just thought it's only fair if we give him a bit more money. And it's not a lot of extra money! Maybe another hundred or two.
 
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Cammy0102

Member
Fellas, I've found another plasterer. He said he can fill it up with Hardwall and reskim. On his profile on the website, it says he has qualifications, he's been there for over 10 years and has loads of good reviews. He wants £200 which I think is a fair price?

Question. Should the backing plater should also be in the cavity next to the door frame? Prevoiulsy there was lime plaster there and this all came off when we removed the old plaster there. Wonder if there should be a gap between hardwall layer and the outside door frame? Should that cavity be filled with foam?

Thanks for your expert opinion as always :)
 

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superspread

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Fellas, I've found another plasterer. He said he can fill it up with Hardwall and reskim. On his profile on the website, it says he has qualifications, he's been there for over 10 years and has loads of good reviews. He wants £200 which I think is a fair price?

Question. Should the backing plater should also be in the cavity next to the door frame? Prevoiulsy there was lime plaster there and this all came off when we removed the old plaster there. Wonder if there should be a gap between hardwall layer and the outside door frame? Should that cavity be filled with foam?

Thanks for your expert opinion as always :)
Yea I would
 
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