essexandy
The Lake Governor
What's dsg mate? I do remember seeing lorries turning up with board for recycling.And lorry after lorry rocking up with DSG.... Visted it myself in a former life of course.
What's dsg mate? I do remember seeing lorries turning up with board for recycling.And lorry after lorry rocking up with DSG.... Visted it myself in a former life of course.
De-sulphurised Gypsum from power plants. When I visited, in my former life, just to make it clear They said to the students that it was lighter than natural Gypsum. I’ve no idea what they plan but I’d guess they will import it.What's dsg mate? I do remember seeing lorries turning up with board for recycling.
Number 10 is a toss up between johnny boy and monkeyHe's definitely not one of the ten, do you ever wonder who the other eight (8) are @bof ?
Sounds to me like plasterboard will be coming from China as well before we know it.De-sulphurised Gypsum from power plants. When I visited, in my former life, just to make it clear They said to the students that it was lighter than natural Gypsum. I’ve no idea what they plan but I’d guess they will import it.
Will be a gypsum variant on the horizon in the future thenSounds to me like plasterboard will be coming from China as well before we know it.
The multi variant, vaccine makers wouldn't get out of bed for that one.Will be a gypsum variant on the horizon in the future then
bg owns all the gypsum mines in the UK... (i believe) and so knauf gypsum is the waste product for power stations which is not natural gypsum.I thought you said other manufacturer's don't use any natural gypsum
With the way things are going hopefully DSG will no longer be available anywhere in the world by then due to it coming from coal burning power stations.Siniat Bristol boards apparently made purely from desulpherised gypsum and recycled plasterboard
-https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/339413/Variation_and_consolidation_notice.pdf
And BG Fuald Mine in Tetbury were granted planning permission in 2013 to import DSG, for "blended products" - after getting that permission, they then asked and got approval to keep the mine open until 2028 without doing any further environmental impact study. The basis of the request being that it provides 80% of the UK national supply of gypsum and anahydrite (OPC to us) - presumably then it will be DSG and recycled only.
Is that the only source? If UK gypsum source closes/runs out, what are we going to use then, mud? Not a joke, seriously wondering.With the way things are going hopefully DSG will no longer be available anywhere in the world by then due to it coming from coal burning power stations.
It is for DSG. As for running out of Gypsum, it’s not something that will concern us. I’d be more worried about the existing mines running out and the plants having to be moved. If anyone’s been round the plants they know just how big they are and I wouldn’t like to guess at the cost of that which could impact on the cost of materials. Yet again not something we need to worry about imho.Is that the only source? If UK gypsum source closes/runs out, what are we going to use then, mud? Not a joke, seriously wondering.
China are still building coal fired power stations at a rate of knots, so there will be dsg around for a long time to come.With the way things are going hopefully DSG will no longer be available anywhere in the world by then due to it coming from coal burning power stations.
They are not planning on exporting much, if any. Chinese growth plans are to use all it can produce. They'll only supply to their "One Belt & Road" so called "partners" to ensure they continue to pay the debt.China are still building coal fired power stations at a rate of knots, so there will be dsg around for a long time to come.
? The existing UK mine is scheduled to shut in 7 years, when most of the underground resource will be gone. After that we will be reliant on imports, at a price.It is for DSG. As for running out of Gypsum, it’s not something that will concern us. I’d be more worried about the existing mines running out and the plants having to be moved. If anyone’s been round the plants they know just how big they are and I wouldn’t like to guess at the cost of that which could impact on the cost of materials. Yet again not something we need to worry about imho.
Well considering that there was a composite/fibre board being made in Essex and elsewhere decades ago it's hardly surprising that something similar would be developed again.Fck me, I was half-joking, "I can see a version of paper mache woke boards coming." They've only gone and done it already;
"Adaptave and the University of Bath have produced alternative gypsum-free wallboard from compostable crop waste....production of their prototype wallboard, called Breathaboard...environmentally friendly alternative to gypsum wallboard.....does not require gypsum extraction or flue gas desulphurisation (FGD) at coal-fired power plants."
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Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboard
Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboardwww.globalgypsum.com
Maybe your kids or grandkids might care if the environmental impact is not reduced to a sustainable level.Who cares give me a knauf board any day
..just sort your boards bg there are too in consistent
I can assure you that there is plenty of Gypsum still underground. Which mine are you talking about?? The existing UK mine is scheduled to shut in 7 years, when most of the underground resource will be gone. After that we will be reliant on imports, at a price.
I know it's a while ago when we visited the mine, but I'm sure I remember them saying that there was at least twenty-five years worth left in the East Leake seam, and that there were many more untouched seams around the country?Maybe your kids or grandkids might care if the environmental impact is not reduced to a sustainable level.
I can assure you that there is plenty of Gypsum still underground. Which mine are you talking about?
bg owns all the gypsum mines in the UK... (i believe) and so knauf gypsum is the waste product for power stations which is not natural gypsu
Agree about environment and thought gypsum to be abundantMaybe your kids or grandkids might care if the environmental impact is not reduced to a sustainable level.
I can assure you that there is plenty of Gypsum still underground. Which mine are you talking about?
Fauld mine in Tetbury.Maybe your kids or grandkids might care if the environmental impact is not reduced to a sustainable level.
I can assure you that there is plenty of Gypsum still underground. Which mine are you talking about?
Stop f**k**g about then in making the boards? Do u actually use the boards? You don't realise how bad and in consistent there areMaybe your kids or grandkids might care if the environmental impact is not reduced to a sustainable level.
I can assure you that there is plenty of Gypsum still underground. Which mine are you talking about?
Fck me, I was half-joking, "I can see a version of paper mache woke boards coming." They've only gone and done it already;
"Adaptave and the University of Bath have produced alternative gypsum-free wallboard from compostable crop waste....production of their prototype wallboard, called Breathaboard...environmentally friendly alternative to gypsum wallboard.....does not require gypsum extraction or flue gas desulphurisation (FGD) at coal-fired power plants."
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Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboard
Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboardwww.globalgypsum.com
I don’t work on the board side of things but I’d guess that the pink core as less dsg than the white.@The Apprentice so some BG boards have a pink core and some white. All of the poor quality boards we've had from BG have had the pink core. To the point where I told Jewsons that if they tried to deliver a pallet with pink cored boards they would be sent away.
Apart from colour what is the difference in the core material?
I did wonder that. The pink cored boards are simply not fit for purpose in many cases. Almost like they're filled with chewing gum.I don’t work on the board side of things but I’d guess that the pink core as less dsg than the white.
I know your Mrs told meI go off in 60 seconds every Friday night lol!
Will it take a staple?Fck me, I was half-joking, "I can see a version of paper mache woke boards coming." They've only gone and done it already;
"Adaptave and the University of Bath have produced alternative gypsum-free wallboard from compostable crop waste....production of their prototype wallboard, called Breathaboard...environmentally friendly alternative to gypsum wallboard.....does not require gypsum extraction or flue gas desulphurisation (FGD) at coal-fired power plants."
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Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboard
Adaptavate and University of Bath develop bio-based alternative wallboardwww.globalgypsum.com
I don’t work on the board side of things but I’d guess that the pink core as less dsg than the white.
"The market demands pink coloured plaster of a consistent colour, most easily obtained from natural gypsum".According to a 2006 Govt. paper they (the Govt) were told, or released to the public that "The market demands pink coloured plaster of a consistent colour, most easily obtained from natural gypsum".
It also states the authors of the paper could not get any decent production stats as BG is the only UK producer. This also supported/justified the increased expansion of East Leake production, and forecast reduced DSG use.
East Leake was due to close in 2025, and in 2017 planning permission was extended to 2042. It produces lots of boards!
I would have thought housebuilders would prefer an EU style white finish? My critical cynical view is that BG put the fix in, via the authors/Govt lobbying to effectively shut out competition and keep their own mines in operation longer. Most production in the rest of the world seems to be white/ish.
Totally agree, BG market protection. The UK mines appear to be the only pink ones, and maybe softer material than the white ones. You can see in pics of the UK mines that it is pink underground but the only pics I've found of EU opencast are white."The market demands pink coloured plaster of a consistent colour, most easily obtained from natural gypsum".
What an absolute load of bullshite. Why would anyone care what colour the plaster is when it's getting painted anyway?