Advice on rendering and quote

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garak112

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I'm new and in need of advice from experts on the render on my house, which is currently in a poor state of repair.

It appears as though the current top coat has been applied on to the existing render, which may be original from the 1930s. This top coat is now flaking off in large amounts. The bits that can be seen underneath indicate that no real prep work was done to the existing surface prior to installation which is why it has failed.

I contacted a specialist company through a government scheme and they recently came to look at the property. The chap that turned up ran a hammer across the walls, tapping when he detected a change in sound. His view was that the render was largely sound, but would require some patch repair, with the top coat needing to be removed and replaced. I had previously been told that render shouldn't be patch repaired, is this true?

He then advised that they could strip, prep and install a product called Andura for about £5k. I can't find any information about this product that is positive and it sounds like it is essentially a paint. Has anyone used it or encountered it before?

The house itself is not particularly big (3 bed semi) and they didn't think they would need scaffold because of the shape (I will try and get photos later but it is chalet style). My initial thoughts were that £5k was a bit expensive for repainting a house (albeit with some extra prep work). For a comparison I was quoted £3.2k earlier in the year to re-do in a 'standard' render although the guy that quoted this was then too busy to do it.

I am a bit uncertain about whether the render does need to come off (as I was told by a general builder who didn't want the job) or if it does just need the top coat removed and replaced (which could just be a tactic to push this particular top coat product).
 
Is the original render flat or textured like a pebble dash ?? Not heard of that andura before. How many square metres are there in your place roughly ?
 
anduras a paint job, theres tonnes of a similar ilk on the market
they claim to last a lifetime, but I see a quite a few that are delaminating after a few years, the general rule of thumb is your only as good as your substrate.
its difficult to make a call to offer advice without any pictures, otherwise any advice your going to get will be guesswork.
 
As Owls said.

I would go for a full re-render not a tart up.

I could give you a full modern re-render system for what they have quoted. Although you would have to be in South Yorkshire and wait until next May.
 
Just taken some quick measurements and worked out approximately 66 m2 of rendered wall excluding the windows.
 
Just taken some quick measurements and worked out approximately 66 m2 of rendered wall excluding the windows.

Put your location and a contact and im sure someone will be close to advise you.
Personally id either 30mm eps over the lot and thincoat.(because of flaky paints.)
or hack off blown area, patch, scabble paint back and thincoat system.

Oh and half way reading through this you mentioned goverment. Other option taking it your house is a solid wall. Wait until greendeal kicks in again and get a chunk of it paid by goverment
 
I am in South East London, happy to send my contact details through PM if someone wants to come and take a look.
 
It's cavity. I thought wall ties was the latest money making scheme, what have they got to do with the render top coat?
 
It's cavity. I thought wall ties was the latest money making scheme, what have they got to do with the render top coat?

If the wall ties have failed, the block wall will bow and the render crack and fail.... it may not be the case, but something to think about.

There are some good quality render guys on here in the SE London area (trying to remember the forum names....), but it may be a good idea to get a variety of quotes from people and see what they all say for a more rounded opinion

Also, ask to see some reference sites and get some comments from some of the clients!
 
I would get someone to check the wall ties ,am i right in thinking it is cavity ?
Look at the cracking on your side and next doors ,render away mate with what ever you want ,but it will crack through ,only trying to help
 
Theirs looks similar to ours - lifting and flaking but without any obvious cracking to whats beneath. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it has been done by the same people.

There is cracking through the render where the chimney joins the house. The flashing against the chimney appears to have been failed for some time and it was very damp in this area. Ultimate plan is to get this chimney lopped off.
 
Right, embarrassment. I have just discovered that I don't have cavity walls. My homebuyers survey said I did but since that has been as much use as a chocolate fireguard so far I should have known. I just went into the eaves and checked the visible bricks on the front and back walls and they have header bricks. Wall thickness is between 23-26cm.
 
Right, embarrassment. I have just discovered that I don't have cavity walls. My homebuyers survey said I did but since that has been as much use as a chocolate fireguard so far I should have known. I just went into the eaves and checked the visible bricks on the front and back walls and they have header bricks. Wall thickness is between 23-26cm.
Sorry if i caused concern ,easy just to measure the thickness of the window return ,bottom half of the house does show headers ,top gable could be solid as the hung tiles on batten come out the same as the render ,but the middle part could well be cavity still, which will then make them match in, as shown
 
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Andura, the london coating company used to spray it on its a textured coating ,mostly ripp off companysss:RpS_wink:
 
Right, embarrassment. I have just discovered that I don't have cavity walls. My homebuyers survey said I did but since that has been as much use as a chocolate fireguard so far I should have known. I just went into the eaves and checked the visible bricks on the front and back walls and they have header bricks. Wall thickness is between 23-26cm.

I would wait until the greendeal on solid wall starts again. Youll get a chunk of the cost paid for you.
 
Any idea what it would cost to install? I wouldn't have thought the Green Deal would open again until April unless the Autumn statement contains good news.
 
Any idea what it would cost to install? I wouldn't have thought the Green Deal would open again until April unless the Autumn statement contains good news.

Yes be april latest. But have heard from couple sources decc are putting something together.

Cost of install would depend on the installer. Not a good idea to discuss price on open forum mate
 
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