i recently bought a 1930s house that has been completely re skimmed now 18 months on every wall has Cracks and hollow noises when tapped Except those walls that were plasterboarded. My question is would the house have lime render / plaster that has been skimmed with modern gypsum plaster hence why it has cracked or could it just be the original render has perrished over the years and need replacing? (Just find it strange that it's all walls and is getting worse month by month - new plaster has been applied correctly as its I have taken off are firmly stuck to original
1930s house would it be lime plaster?
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superspread
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30s houses were the cross over between lime and sand and cement/ plasterboard , if it sounds hollow it's most likely the lime that is hollow and not the reskim. What you have to remember is that reskim are purely cosmetic.
That said the plasterer should of advised you that the existing needs knocking off and left it to you to make that decision .
That said the plasterer should of advised you that the existing needs knocking off and left it to you to make that decision .
algeeman
It’s A Boy
The house is old ....ive stripped mines back to brick.
Stop tapping your walls... ive come across 1 problem after another and decided fuuck it blocked/bricked it back up re boarded up stairs ceilings..ripped out chimneys re-built the stack.
Damped downstairs....new lintels etc....
The more you start the more problems your gonna find .
Watch your budget it gets outta control easy.
My partner is lucky she met a spread.
I still never get laid cause my hands are always filthy.
And i still gotta find time for site work and 3 kids......
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU !!!
Stop tapping your walls... ive come across 1 problem after another and decided fuuck it blocked/bricked it back up re boarded up stairs ceilings..ripped out chimneys re-built the stack.
Damped downstairs....new lintels etc....
The more you start the more problems your gonna find .
Watch your budget it gets outta control easy.
My partner is lucky she met a spread.
I still never get laid cause my hands are always filthy.
And i still gotta find time for site work and 3 kids......
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU !!!
Vincey
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Hey Algee, Any picture updates of the refurbishments mate?
I have had 2 bedrooms taken back to brick and sand and cemented some walls / batten and boarded others now but Athens rest of the house needs doing just wondered what's best to do
algeeman
It’s A Boy
Yep im doing a before/after thing my friend.
Got a big steak on the kitcken top at home.
Too tired to eat it
ChrispyUK
Well-Known Member
Stop tapping the walls is is exactly what my wife says to me
But the cracking is so bad I could literally peel it off the walls with my fingers
I have attached pics but could it be because of gypsum skim over original lime and if so would taking back to brick and sand and cementing fix it?
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vfr12
MOTORC*NT
I am with malc on this one. Think is lime and back then they have used quick lime to mix it with sand. Not many spreads can get the ratio right and is really skills and practice to get the mix right today, if you are not using prebaged render. You shouldn't reskim the walls, as mentioned inspection and hacking the existing render. I personally will never overboard brick wall and in your case why you didn't use lime on all walls? The best render in my book ,done properly nothing comes close. By the sound of it you should strip the walls and start again. Hollow spots can be caused by damp or other recent activities in the house.
algeeman
It’s A Boy
I can see more cracks on my phone screen mate.
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
I doubt s&cement will fix it. Cement is not as flexible as lime. Many properties in uk are fuked up by spreads using cement in the lime for quick setting , especially where wood is involved .There are many prebaged renders to choose from , but @Bauwer seems to be all over the place recently.
Seriously mate they are everywhere and getting worse - move when you push them
algeeman
It’s A Boy
Is that origanal or been re-skimmed ??
Pagey
Private Member
Bit polite for you that reply,you had a leg over or something
The plasterers said take back to brick in external facing walls sand and cement then skim and batten and board internal was so have gone with what they said just hope it works on the 2 rooms they have just done
Reskim before I moved in 18 months ago - rush job to sell it I imagine
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
Where are the first rooms, ground floor?
superspread
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Pagey
Private Member
Thing is with a house that is nearly 100 years old you will get cracks ect it's more a paranoid thing and the more you look the more you find if don't wanna hack off maybe a grit full mesh and reskim can't bank on a few coming back but if for cosmetic reasons that's what I would advise although would stress the risk or reward of doing that way if it's a full hack off and redo don't expect a cheap quote if you get a proper plasterer in, I know I wouldn't be cheap
No mate upper floor bedrooms
algeeman
It’s A Boy
Theres your problem mate....re-skim is only to tart it back up.
Do the labour yourself....strip bad areas back to brick.
If monies tight dab it....a spark will cost more to bury sockets...then a joiner will cost you to re do skirts n arcs (you could do this yourself its not that hard).
If you have time and money get a spread to sort it.
He'l advise you right cause he will price the job and want it done right with NO comebacks and want to get onto his next job.
Get a skip youl be surprised how much works involed.
Good luck buddy.
Thanks mate appreciate it
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
Not as bad if they were ground floor, but still ! External solid walls should never see plasterboard anywhere near. We had this discussion many times on here and sometimes customer and budget dictates. You have ended up with air pocket where the cold and hot will meet and create condense. Watch the bottom of the walls or the ceiling corners on the one bellow.
No mate have sand and cemented external facing walls -only batten and boarded internal walls thought that would be ok?
Pagey
Private Member
Without a full hack off your only hiding the problem in my eyes example is in your house you took all back and done it correct because that's the proper way to do it and it's your house not just another job with some skinflint trying to save money when it's your home you gotta do it the right way imo
algeeman
It’s A Boy
Come on now ...would you mesh n skim a fuucking house in this state ??
I wouldnt mesh anything unless i was rendering over pebble dash.
Id sooner drive a car packed with explosives into it....then start again !!
Pagey
Private Member
Make your rooms smaller not by much but enough to notice
I'm cool with taking back to brick but just want to know if sand and cement with waterproof in is ok over brickwork which may well be lime mortar???
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
Ah, ok, I thought you did sand and cement and then plasterboard and skimmed . Weird was my first thought, but you can expect the unthinkable now days.I personally wouldn't use plasterboard on internals, but that doesn't mean is .......... disastrous
Pagey
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I have done a job a job like this before but purely at the customers request after all options were given to this day no cracks have come back or so I'm told by them as I do work for them from time to time I did reply to you but you must of been typing this at same time I'm with you I would take it all the way back but was giving an alternative
Pagey
Private Member
Why can't you hack off and hardwall and skim don't have to be sand cement does it
vfr12
MOTORC*NT
On external wall Pagey?
Pagey
Private Member
i thought was talking internal as said skimming apologies if I got it wrong