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gps said:
You can make me out to be thick all you like my friend, if I do a job and get a call back because a ceiling or wall I skimmed fails, I'd think oh s**t how has this happened and put it right, I'm not sure I'd ever feel the need to call bg to blame them, unless I'm using uni finish and it fails, so are your call outs to assess who or what is at fault mainly uni ? Because I just do not see why else another plasterer would need to come and check what has gone wrong, but hey I'm thick though
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If I got called back 2 years later I don't think I would be working for free to sort it anything could of caused a failure in that time
 
irish_spread said:
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So other than being called out for a uni finish assessment what faults have you had to check ?

I can't ever remember anyone on here or in talking to other spreads havIng another plasterer come and check there work to see who is at fault product or plasterer.
 
gps said:
So other than being called out for a uni finish assessment what faults have you had to check ?

I can't ever remember anyone on here or in talking to other spreads havIng another plasterer come and check there work to see who is at fault product or plasterer.
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Ive seen reps onsite a few times assesing plaster works.....cause of shite materials....skim adehsive and boards.
Ive been called on to sites and homes and been asked" what went wrong here "on plaster screeding dampness paint flaking off fresh plaster etc.......sometimes i had answers sometimes i dont.
I dont give a fuuck about my spelling either.......its just plastering life is too short.
 
algeeman said:
Ive seen reps onsite a few times assesing plaster works.....cause of shite materials....skim adehsive and boards.
Ive been called on to sites and homes and been asked" what went wrong here "on plaster screeding dampness paint flaking off fresh plaster etc.......sometimes i had answers sometimes i dont.
I dont give a fuuck about my spelling either.......its just plastering life is too short.
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I'm talking domestic though
 
8 months is quite long time for a delamination on a ceiling,usually if a bond failure occurs it is quicker than that.
Did you say you used same gear in the house in other areas.how is that ceiling,if OK then probably not material.
If there is no sign of water damage from above on reskim probably material.
Keep us updated mate.
 
Donzo said:
8 months is quite long time for a delamination on a ceiling,usually if a bond failure occurs it is quicker than that.
Did you say you used same gear in the house in other areas.how is that ceiling,if OK then probably not material.
If there is no sign of water damage from above on reskim probably material.
Keep us updated mate.
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I haven't been up there yet did the front ceiling upstairs in uni I have to look at that one aswell
 
It's an interesting one OK, or maybe terrifying one. @flynny I get the assess ceilings for cracks etc and then decide whether to overboard or not, but that's all you can assess isn't it? uni should stick to anything other than distemper?
 
I find it interesting that a BG approved assessor won't use Uni as he doesn't have confidence in it, that speaks volumes.

The reason vincey is taking some slack for this is because he's known for singing uni's praises at EVERY opportunity as well as advising anyone who will listen to give it a go - but as soon as it goes tits up it's all of a sudden daft to be arguing over bags of plaster - coming from the selfie master that takes pictures of bags of uni on jobs ffs.
 
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I like old vincey even though he doesnt like my drunken banter !!
Love you vincey mate ....hope your not feeling too down about the whole uni saga.
 
Squarehead said:
It's an interesting one OK, or maybe terrifying one. @flynny I get the assess ceilings for cracks etc and then decide whether to overboard or not, but that's all you can assess isn't it? uni should stick to anything other than distemper?
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There are plenty of problems that can be there, nicotine, grease, dust, certain paints, loose paint, loose artex, artex on top of paper, loose tapes and this is before you have chosen the plaster.
 
GrantyBoy said:
I find it interesting that a BG approved assessor won't use Uni as he doesn't have confidence in it, that speaks volumes.

The reason vincey is taking some slack for this is because he's known for singing uni's praises at EVERY opportunity as well as advising anyone who will listen to give it a go - but as soon as it goes tits up it's all of a sudden daft to be arguing over bags of plaster - coming from the selfie master that takes pictures of bags of uni on jobs ffs.
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Just to add if magnetic plaster stops being magnetic I take full responsibility :)
 
stuart23 said:
Just what exactly is it you have against this new scheme?
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Absolutely nothing, hey look when someone comes on here and says I go round checking for faults in either product or plasterer but then doesn't really say what faults he is actually checking isn't that a little odd ? Is uni failing more than we are told ? I can't think of any other reason why this sort of assessment would be needed in any other case.
 
Also something that might be a problem in the future which is being over looked is the vape off e-cigs. I know this leaves a slight film on top of glass but not sure what it leaves on walls so might be worth asking future customers. :)
 
gps said:
Absolutely nothing, hey look when someone comes on here and says I go round checking for faults in either product or plasterer but then doesn't really say what faults he is actually checking isn't that a little odd ? Is uni failing more than we are told ? I can't think of any other reason why this sort of assessment would be needed in any other case.
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Is this also for the customer? If a customer is not happy and it is usually down to bad work rather than materials, so the first call will be from a customer and the rep with be there to back up the materials not the plasterer. It could be a good thing because if they kick off all the s**t and keep the good it could be a good thing to be on but only if your good?
 
gps said:
Absolutely nothing, hey look when someone comes on here and says I go round checking for faults in either product or plasterer but then doesn't really say what faults he is actually checking isn't that a little odd ? Is uni failing more than we are told ? I can't think of any other reason why this sort of assessment would be needed in any other case.
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Simple answer to that really, which will be handy for you.

I was made an assessor on the 9th of December. A few days later I got a chest infection which I still have, and I've not been able to work since. There is another assessor in the south of England as well.

Regarding me not using uni finish, I personally prefer to bond and skim, if something works, why change it ?
I have used uni finish on a couple of house over skims but I find it pulls into quick although it works ok on shiny paint. Also the cost is a factor
 
flynnyman said:
Is this also for the customer? If a customer is not happy and it is usually down to bad work rather than materials, so the first call will be from a customer and the rep with be there to back up the materials not the plasterer. It could be a good thing because if they kick off all the s**t and keep the good it could be a good thing to be on but only if your good?
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I take it your assuming that he is only checking for faults from members who are on this scheme ? My understanding is he is checking either faulty product or workmanship across the board.
Do not forget though vincey himself said only the best get on it through its rigorous assessment so surely no faults from workmanship would ever be an issue from its members.
 
flynnyman said:
Is this also for the customer? If a customer is not happy and it is usually down to bad work rather than materials, so the first call will be from a customer and the rep with be there to back up the materials not the plasterer. It could be a good thing because if they kick off all the s**t and keep the good it could be a good thing to be on but only if your good?
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If the customer goes down the 2 yr guarantee scheme and has issues with the job, they are told to contact the plasterer to come back and see what the problem is. If the plasterer claims he/she isn't to blame, the customer rings BG. BG will then instruct one of the assessors (NOT a rep) to go to the job and see what the problem is. If the assessor says it is a product fail, BG will foot the bill . That's it !!!
 
irish_spread said:
gps, I'm going for a sh1te, I'll be back in 10 mins
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I used to play COD on playstation and was shite at it.
Used to play against mates n family online......id f**k off doing different things around the house while camping so the cuunts couldnt find me.
I got more satisfaction outta wasting there time than me getting shot to shiit !!!
 
Here's the sun rising over the med under the cloud this morning:)
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I honestly don't get why you can't get your head round this @gps. British gypsum are offering a two year guarantee, to do this you must first be on the scheme so that your work can be checked over. If anyone needs to use that guarantee because of some failure or whatever reason they need a representative in place to do a site visit, someone who knows about day to day plastering and not someone who has learned all about plaster from sitting in a office. Without having someone who knows what they are doing going out to any possible problems then you wouldn't be able to write a guarantee. Honestly you pick up on the stupidest of points and won't let go.
 
stuart23 said:
I honestly don't get why you can't get your head round this @gps. British gypsum are offering a two year guarantee, to do this you must first be on the scheme so that your work can be checked over. If anyone needs to use that guarantee because of some failure or whatever reason they need a representative in place to do a site visit, someone who knows about day to day plastering and not someone who has learned all about plaster from sitting in a office. Without having someone who knows what they are doing going out to any possible problems then you wouldn't be able to write a guarantee. Honestly you pick up on the stupidest of points and won't let go.
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This thread is not about the scheme my friend so I don't get your point.
 
stuart23 said:
I honestly don't get why you can't get your head round this @gps. British gypsum are offering a two year guarantee, to do this you must first be on the scheme so that your work can be checked over. If anyone needs to use that guarantee because of some failure or whatever reason they need a representative in place to do a site visit, someone who knows about day to day plastering and not someone who has learned all about plaster from sitting in a office. Without having someone who knows what they are doing going out to any possible problems then you wouldn't be able to write a guarantee. Honestly you pick up on the stupidest of points and won't let go.
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Btw if you do domestic work how many times do you get call backs through faulty product or workmanship ?
 
stuart23 said:
I honestly don't get why you can't get your head round this @gps. British gypsum are offering a two year guarantee, to do this you must first be on the scheme so that your work can be checked over. If anyone needs to use that guarantee because of some failure or whatever reason they need a representative in place to do a site visit, someone who knows about day to day plastering and not someone who has learned all about plaster from sitting in a office. Without having someone who knows what they are doing going out to any possible problems then you wouldn't be able to write a guarantee. Honestly you pick up on the stupidest of points and won't let go.
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He's not a rep he's an assessor ;)
 
irish_spread said:
If the customer goes down the 2 yr guarantee scheme and has issues with the job, they are told to contact the plasterer to come back and see what the problem is. If the plasterer claims he/she isn't to blame, the customer rings BG. BG will then instruct one of the assessors (NOT a rep) to go to the job and see what the problem is. If the assessor says it is a product fail, BG will foot the bill . That's it !!!
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And just to balance things up and clarify, if it's not the material what happens next?
 
gps said:
I take it your assuming that he is only checking for faults from members who are on this scheme ? My understanding is he is checking either faulty product or workmanship across the board.
Do not forget though vincey himself said only the best get on it through its rigorous assessment so surely no faults from workmanship would ever be an issue from its members.
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Well if that's what @Vincey says it must be true :)
 
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