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yeah yeah i no! i weren't taking it to heart! honest! most of oyu promise 1 thing and i get the opposite! e.g. yeah don't worry mate i'll clean out your boxes rah rah rah!!

well well, thats a surprise ain't it! me bein from that particular trade an all.

to me it dn't ake no difference either really, coz i make a map anyway!

lovely i thought as much. i always make an accurate map of the lights anyways, just in case!! just a bit easier if there all ready there.

as in yes he's bein awkward?

i'll tuck the wires in when i put the box in, but i'll get him to clean the boxes so i can actually see the edgesof the box!! or i'll do it, normally when plaster is still slightly damp.

wot do you think i was doing for the first 2 years as an apprentice?!!!

thats rite mate! theres another bloke i work for some times. hes a sparks and a spread, and he's always banging on about making it as easy as possible for the next trade! but he's F*****g rite though. actually come to think of it i have a question for you chaps. i'm doina rewire up in london at...

in your dreams me fruitcake !

ooh, thats a toughie. if u snip the cables proper short like 2 inches short that would be worse!!! normally if i'm working for a builder i'll make him do it, coz if theres any damage i ain't liable!!! thats what the bloke i sub out from wants me to do. but sumtimes i'll do it with a filling knife.

very nice. probs for sky + tv. ah well. s**t happens!!!

lovely, thank you for the welcome!!!

probs, if you look at end , if its an i t cable it'll be much smaller, with 8cores in it, very tiny. it'll porbs wn't to be long yes. have you cut it down then?!!

hi there, my name is jay, and i'm obiviously relatively new to this site. i'm not a spread, i'm a sparks! woohoo! and i work for myself. but what i'm trying to get at i suppose is that i would like to get into spreading. i'm willing to labour for a plasterer whether it be just a day a week, i...

oh right. just the 1 cable? probs for a tv. did have a back box? or poking straight out of wall?

probs be for a tv. has it got plugs on the end of it like computer cables? why? what have you done made it disappear?!!!

erm, what sort of room is it in?

how wrong you are sunshine!! normally if i don't do it, they get chopped anyway!!! i no some sparks that leave them about 4ft long!!!! which is ridiculous!

as a sparks, if its new stuff i tuck all the cables in to the bxes leaving nothing stickin out, if its old stuff the spreads i've dealt with don't mind if i just put a bag over it and tape it up.

i live in crawley mate, near gatwick airport

yeah i suppose. its guna take a while like you say, but noone's guna take a bloke 1 day a week? surely?

see i was thinkin of goin back to college and gettin a job with a proper spread and all tht, and tht wud be the best route, but i wud lose so much money!!!! well u mark em on the end coz u use a pair of cutters normally to make the marks, and even very lightly using them can nick the copper...

why do you think? to p*** spreads off!!! nah only joking. uum, i always cut them a bit shorter, and tuck them inside the box. to make it easier for you guys, some sparks leave half way across the floor, just to be a pain in the arse, bu i think about u boys u see! also protects my cables from...

hi everybody. i'm new on here. now i'm not a plasterer by trade i'm your arch enemy the sparks! anyway i want to learn plastering, and there's a local place near me called trade skills 4 u. does quite a few different coureses, just wondered if anyone on here new if they where any good? cheers, jay.