Type of Plastering used in Haussman's Parisian Apartments??

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Hello,

I am new to the plastering world and would like to enroll in some plastering courses, however I am looking to learn a very specific type of plastering. They type of plastering I am referring to is the type used in the Parisian apartments of the late 19th century. For reference, please see the following images:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/909/wk6Hp0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/U0rE1U.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/m7DFLW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/bzBYjC.jpg


I am referring to the actual plaster of the walls rather than the ornamentation which may be of some other sort of plaster.

What type of plaster is this? Lime plaster? Plaster Board? Wooden lathe and plaster? Plaster of Paris?

What type of plastering was used in Paris at this time? Any art historians here?



Kind regards.
 
hedkandi said:
Hello,

I am new to the plastering world and would like to enroll in some plastering courses, however I am looking to learn a very specific type of plastering. They type of plastering I am referring to is the type used in the Parisian apartments of the late 19th century. For reference, please see the following images:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/909/wk6Hp0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/U0rE1U.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/m7DFLW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/bzBYjC.jpg


I am referring to the actual plaster of the walls rather than the ornamentation which may be of some other sort of plaster.

What type of plaster is this? Lime plaster? Plaster Board? Wooden lathe and plaster? Plaster of Paris?

What type of plastering was used in Paris at this time? Any art historians here?



Kind regards.
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would of thought lime plastering
 
hedkandi said:
Hello,

I am new to the plastering world and would like to enroll in some plastering courses, however I am looking to learn a very specific type of plastering. They type of plastering I am referring to is the type used in the Parisian apartments of the late 19th century. For reference, please see the following images:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/909/wk6Hp0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/U0rE1U.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/m7DFLW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/bzBYjC.jpg


I am referring to the actual plaster of the walls rather than the ornamentation which may be of some other sort of plaster.

What type of plaster is this? Lime plaster? Plaster Board? Wooden lathe and plaster? Plaster of Paris?

What type of plastering was used in Paris at this time? Any art historians here?





Kind regards.
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just a few dinosaurs / old farts :RpS_w00t: :RpS_lol:
 
May I ask why it is this type of plaster you want to use and learn about if it is not to do with the decoration?the reason I ask is when painted with no decoration they all look nearly identical.
 
That looks G** to be fair if your after getting in to that sort of **** its gonna take you years to break into any kind of market for it. Looks good on paper very in practical. Grow up!!:flapper:
 
Done a similar job the other week but used wood (not an exact copy lol)
 

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Fair play would look good but i think to really carry a room off with that sort of detail the cornice work could of been a bit deeper and more pattern to set the room off!:RpS_thumbsup:
 
The pic doesn't show it but the cornice is quite deep if you look proper, no enrichments we were going for a subtle classy look ;)
 
hedkandi said:
Hello,

I am new to the plastering world and would like to enroll in some plastering courses, however I am looking to learn a very specific type of plastering. They type of plastering I am referring to is the type used in the Parisian apartments of the late 19th century. For reference, please see the following images:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/909/wk6Hp0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/U0rE1U.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/m7DFLW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/540/bzBYjC.jpg


I am referring to the actual plaster of the walls rather than the ornamentation which may be of some other sort of plaster.

What type of plaster is this? Lime plaster? Plaster Board? Wooden lathe and plaster? Plaster of Paris?

What type of plastering was used in Paris at this time? Any art historians here?



Kind regards.
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I think it's called expensive plastering. @Fibrehand7 is our expert in residence and should be able to tell you. I think franknewman dabbles in this kind of stuff as well
 
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kgreigh said:
May I ask why it is this type of plaster you want to use and learn about if it is not to do with the decoration?the reason I ask is when painted with no decoration they all look nearly identical.
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Ultimately I'm just looking to adhere to authenticity. Whether that be lime, gypsum, or any other application.
 
Fibrehand7 said:
Obviously all the fancy mouldings are gypsum based, if you want to learn about - it's fibrous plastering, but extremely rare to find the proper course - you would be best off to work for a fibrous company - if Mike's still looking for someone in Liverpool, perhaps you can help him to put out the feelers.
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Is class A plaster gypsum based? I'm not sure
 
flynnyman said:
Looks similar to the job I posted up you could even mistake them for the same room :)
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Yes the type of plaster is irrelevant,many ways to create the same finish and different countries and regions all use different techniques.
 
Alright, since are unable to identify the plaster used in these apartments, would anyone happen to know which plaster was primarily used in greater Paris (and Versailles) during the 17th and 18th centuries? As far I as I understand, lime plaster was the prevailing method up until the use of gypsum in the 19th century. If this is the case, would plaster always be applied with onto lathe and incorporate some sort of binding agent such as horse hair or were there other methods of lime plaster use?


Kind regards.
 
hedkandi said:
Alright, since are unable to identify the plaster used in these apartments, would anyone happen to know which plaster was primarily used in greater Paris (and Versailles) during the 17th and 18th centuries? As far I as I understand, lime plaster was the prevailing method up until the use of gypsum in the 19th century. If this is the case, would plaster always be applied with onto lathe and incorporate some sort of binding agent such as horse hair or were there other methods of lime plaster use?


Kind regards.
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Alright ,where's the cameras:RpS_lol:
 
Lime would as said be applied to reed or lathe with hair and obviously onto masonry(hair not essential)but i still choose to use it.
 
Many Methods and variables most of the historic buildings(in this country)that have internal lime plastering were all done in different ways using different techniques as it's quite a forgiving material.
 
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