Need to remove tile from the front of a house...behind is timber frame so will need something to render onto??? I am told strong ply and metal laths but also render boards. I am applying monocouche render with textured finish. Which method is best? Is the render board strong enough for textured finish and is ply/mesh strong enough against the weather? All your help is much appreciated cheers
Timber frame rendering???
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raggles
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@Runswithscissors is your man for render carrier boards advice
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Dansouthcoast84
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I wouldnt be putting mono on it tho. A thincoat system with knauf aqua panel
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As above for sure.
plasterjfe
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Thin coat over render board best.
keithuk
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yep
warriorupnorth
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Ditto
Runswithscissors
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Hi There BSR
have a look at the link in my signature below....
Feel free to drop me a mail to rlord@knauf.co.uk or giving me a call on 07918766577 to discuss further
Use KnauF Aquapanel Exterior then a thin coat basecoat and mesh with a thin coat finish.... Boarded render systems onto a TF is the best, easiest, risk free and most cost effective method.
Lots of great advise above (cheers guys)...
Thanks
Richard Lord
Knauf Aquapanel Specialist
Runswithscissors
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as Owls has stated - yes you can.... ensure you use a quality basecoat and mesh and that the board being used (as well as the structure) can take the weight
some system suppliers specialise in dash systems for boards - Parex is the main one...
Runswithscissors
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Give me a bell Bubbles - will be heading Op Norf soon!
bubbles65
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Cheers marra, will do. It's not until next year like :RpS_thumbsup:
it would be my pleasure to educate/bore you further on the subject.
the days of using eml and sand cement etc over timber frame are over, renders have moved on a lot with carrier boards etc.
you can use a scratch render over a carrier board but it needs to be a mineral render, standard mono is to heavy, they look the same as mono on completion but have a different composition ie a lot more lime in etc.
the last wet dash we did was a parex system, it was on a gtec aqua board.in laymans this is similar to a plasterboard and it handles the same cut the same, but is fit for outside use and is fully waterproof. the jury is still out on wether gypsum boards are suitable at all, would I use them on my house mmmm..... not sure, but its a warranted system with a full BBA. there are various decent other boards about such as mr lords aqua board or now that siniat have taken over Lafarge they have relaunced the purple board which is a great improvement on the orange gtec board, so you take your pick.
we applied a base coat of maitie [this is an adhesive, there are other manufactorers adhesives such as Enewalls PACC adhesive or Marmorits sm700, all good gear] standard colour g00 which is a chalk colour because we were using a white spar with a 355 mesh [5mm mesh not like mono where we tend to use 10mm]keyed not spated flat, left it to dry, then a top coat of the white spar mixed in with the maite again [colour g00] and applied it the wall, and it looks the dogs nuts,
I issued all the signed warranty on completion for the whole system, client received the signed warranty so they were happy, so then the architect was happy, that meaning the contractor was happy, I was paid so I was happy.
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Dansouthcoast84
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Using the siniat boards on envirowall at mo. Just cant get my head round plasterboard externally
Runswithscissors
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LOL - I know what you mean Dan... common question i get asked, would you recomend it - NO... Aquapanel Exterior is 100% Cement core (not Gypsum)
If you would not put it on your own house....why offer it to clients....
That said - it is tested and BBA approved with some render systems, when installed properly (not heard it with Envirowall though?) - so crack on!
Dansouthcoast84
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Its the job i spoke to you about on phone last week. Im labour only so not so bad. But wouldnt spec it myself. Keep them in bathrooms!
Oh yeah forgot i had to remind you to call dale!. Lol
Runswithscissors
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Me and Dale played message tennis all yesterday... never did get to listen to him (those who know Dale will understand that...lol)
I have sent him a mail with your details on it asking him to get in touch.... try contacting him yourself as well (try texting him, might be easier....lol)
Runswithscissors
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I think he has it back to front their Bubbles - you specify the finish you want, then get the right backing board to suit the finish..... after all, it is the finish you live with, not the board that gets covered..
Dansouthcoast84
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if the board is warranted and that is the system they want, that's what they get. I don't like the look of acrylic render, doesn't mean I wouldn't put it on someones elses house. quite a bit of our work is specified work by architects, developers, parex etc so I have little or no say in what materials we use.
rendaboard are from euroform, ive never used it, but I think there from johns plasterjfes part of the world warrington or Runcorn way, so he might have some experience of them.
bubbles65
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Runswithscissors
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good,
so I fully endorse knauf aquapanel, it is the best carrier board around, and youd be a mug not to use it on your project. :RpS_biggrin:
Runswithscissors
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PMSL....... Your are again correct...lol
There are loads of boards out there of various quality and price - always check with the render suppliers if you want their approval, it is their render that the clients see at the end of the job!
Rich have we ever met? I have a feeling we may have, but some time ago....
Drop me a message with you details and I'll have to make the effort to meet up with ya soon...
Cheers
Richard Lord
I don't believe ive ever had the pleasure,
although ive been to your plant at Immingham on a few occasions and met plenty of your collegues. and clive and his cronie has been out to demonstrate the airless with the Deco for us. im rained off today so messing on us computer, im guessing your on linkedin? if so ill go over and add you on.
Runswithscissors
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https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=93383689&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile
hope that works....?
Catch up soon I hope
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