plasterjfe
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plasterjfe I spoke by telephone today with directors of the technical issues of two leading manufacturers of insulation systems in Europe and both have found that the installation of insulation only on the pins is faulty. Basic material is mounting adhesive, pins are the only additional protection.
Adhesive is used not only to stick the boards but also to the proper settings for insulation (H, V) and the protection insulated from air (oxidation). Each insulation system must be made according to the manufacturer, otherwise you lose your warranty.
If you know of any system installed only on the pin, give me his name or manufacturer.
Weber has only a high price and not quality. I know better insulation systems manufacturers with which it works more than 15 years and never had problems.
you say its only been in england a few years thats rubbish i did this type of work over 20 years agoI do not understand what's the difference between British and European, I thought that the UK is a member of Europe, but from what I write I start to conclude that perhaps I am wrong.
Second things insulation in the UK market are known from only a few years, if you think that it is sufficient experience. So what can you give me a guarantee that the pins are better than mounting adhesive. I asked you to name the manufacturer gave such a system of insulation. give a certificate that are not checked, unless considering that three years of experience is a sufficient period to be tested.
I is based on the insulation systems are made more than 15 years on the European continent and the Scandinavian countries, and are proven systems. Buildings which I did several years ago in Germany look like they were done yesterday. So I recognize that these systems are very good. I carried out several insulation systems companies such as German Ceresit,Terranova by Austrian or Polish Aval and installation of any of these systemsis not that different.
You ask whether I would give 30-year guarantee?
These insulation systems are there for more than 15 years and are exposed to extreme weather conditions. In the winter frosts over 30 degrees in summer to plus 40 degrees. How far do you think stand in the localtemperate climate.I do not understand what you're nervous, the customer always chooses the best and good things and no matter whether they are British or German or Dutch. Otherwise, how do you explain that to me on the road most of the British car brand is German, and Japanese.
Have a nice day sir
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I can see that you are passionate about what you do and I like that, fair play but you cant just shout EWI bible when some of the info is wrong. I will do a deal with you next time we fit a thermal system in cumbria that has a pin only spec I will have you on and you can do the job with us and you can take all the spec sheets and data literature away with you for keepsake. simple I cant say any fair than that,
I aint arguing with you no more about it mate.
full stop the end.
I see that you know well on what you do and I have to respect. It is nice to lead a discussion with someone like you. Through this discussion, you can compare the different ways of performing insulation systems and learn something new. I would be very grateful if I could see your method of installation of insulation system in return I can provide you with documentation of my installation of insulation systems If you are interested in that. At the end I only have two questions. What is the cost of the material to 100 sq. meters of insulation and what render you using for insulation, thin layer or some other .
AS spunky says mate I dont disclose cost materials or labour on here on here. but would have no problem talking with you about this in person if we do a job together
We use different insulation systems and they all have different thickness basecoats, the best adhesive basecoats with mesh can go as thin as 2 or 3mm and you can still bend it and it will not crack but other basecoats with less polymer and more cement mortar are usually the thicker ones around 8mm and will last out well on a flat wall but not anywhere near as flexible as some I use and will not bend.
I dont always get the chance to specify the products because most of our work is specified by the architect So we have to fit what they say.
I will come and have a look at your system anytime and my offer also stands of course.
And i will come and interpret for him J
And i will come and interpret for him J
thats great all 3 of us not knowing WTF the other is on about.:RpS_lol:
bit like my wallcrete training today, lot of blank looks, especially from the Scottish lads, think they thought i was talkin Martian Andy
I'm back up in Rotherham in three weeks time, usually takes a few hours to tune back in. Until then it's "yeah yeah, er na" and just hope it's the right answer lol
What you doing in Rotherham Andy?
thats what i like to here thats why im off to Dubai to teach them how proper applicators work...come off it mate I have done bungalows with 200M2 on them its 2 days work for a decent gang, if he knows what he is doing he will sort it quicktime no probs.
......and the fix (pin,adhesive or both) depends on the system manufacturer (there are loads of them out there now) and the spec