febond blue grit

[mattyp]

Hi guys ive got an artex ceiling that needs skimming.
Ive scraped the artex and given coat of pva
Ive applied febond blue grit aswell to give a key.
Its says to wait minium of 24hr before skimming ontop of the blue grit.
Do I need to pva the blue grit before I skim?

 

[Garethharrison80]

You dont need pva the blue grit mate, the coat of pva + grit on top of that is plenty.

 

[Garethharrison80]

Grit don't control suction.... Just provide a key....

Its controls suction when i use it, allows me to put more on than when just pva'd, especially wen u let it dry 24 hrs.

 

[irish_spread]

Ignore fibrehand7, he hasn't a clue what he's talking about once again. Plus you shouldn't have put Pva on before blue grit

 

[mattyp]

oh really? whys is that irish_spread?
I thought the pva would control suction?
will it matter that I pva the ceiling first before I put blue grit on?

 

[superspread]

Grit don't control suction.... Just provide a key....

Think you'll find it does Control suction

 

[lazer]

it seems pointless putting pva on if y putting grit on leave blue grit till it dries then crack on

 

[mattyp]

thanks for your advice Gareth. If I applied blue grit on an artex ceiling could I get away with skimming before the grit dries?

 

[irish_spread]

thanks for your advice Gareth. If I applied blue grit on an artex ceiling could I get away with skimming before the grit dries?

The reason you use blue grit is because PVA sometimes delaminates from Artex where blue grit doesn't . So while the blue grit sticks to the Pva, if the Pva doesn't stick to the artex.....kerplunk

 

[irish_spread]

Reposted the wrong post above. Make sure the grit has dried 1st

 

[Garethharrison80]

thanks for your advice Gareth. If I applied blue grit on an artex ceiling could I get away with skimming before the grit dries?

Iv never skimmed on it before its completely dry mate so i wudnt meself, iv gritted in mornin + skimmed in afternoon once its touch dry but that was over walls not artex + had other stuff to do, wouldnt fancy waitin around for it to dry.

 

[mattyp]

ok Gareth will wait for it too dry first then.
So painted artex ceilings or walls just apply blue grit and skim when dry?
no need for pva ?

 

[TheWand]

Depends - if artex has been painted then blue grit would be fine. If bare artex , 50/50 PVA , grit and skim when dry.

Grit don't control suction.... Just provide a key....

:RpS_laugh:

 

[Garethharrison80]

ok Gareth will wait for it too dry first then.
So painted artex ceilings or walls just apply blue grit and skim when dry?
no need for pva ?

Yeah mate jus the blue grit, i prefer thistle bond it but its more expensive.

 

[Smudger1]

blue grit is a bit of work spreading it over large area do any of you give it a whirl with an old whisk first to make it spread on easier ?

 

[DMA]

Grit don't control suction.... Just provide a key....

It doesn't control suction ... it kills it dead!

 

[dustydave]

blue grit is a bit of work spreading it over large area do any of you give it a whirl with an old whisk first to make it spread on easier ?

Yes giving it a stir with a small mixer paddle in a cordless drill is what I usually do. When spreading over a large area I use a short pile roller sleeve.

 

[Jbeesy718]

I just use a brush I find roller doesn't spread it well enough

 

[DMA]

I just use a brush I find roller doesn't spread it well enough

You need to move over to the pink side!

Betokontakt rollers on fast, goes much further and takes half the skim to cover.

It's the thinking man's pre-grit. :RpS_thumbsup:

 

[superspread]

Ok about distemper like old lime plaster - just blue grit ?

Wash off the distemper first ,done two ceilings last week and did exactly that,

 

[DMA]

I use a lot of betokontakt - any difference to blue grit?

You mean apart from being pink, rollering on fast, going much further & taking half the skim to cover?

You tell me, you use a lot of it ... apparently?

 

[superspread]

Wash them off with sugar soap then blue grit when dry ?

Yep bang on,make sure any distemper residue is washed off with clean water then blue grit away all you like

 

[Jbeesy718]

You need to move over to the pink side!

Betokontakt rollers on fast, goes much further and takes half the skim to cover.

It's the thinking man's pre-grit. :RpS_thumbsup:

Iv been using micro a fair bit as the grit is small in that too beto is hard to get hold of for me.

 

[beddy]

I use a lot of betokontakt - any difference to blue grit?

So how are you giving advice to use blue grit id you don't know what it's like to use?

 

[beddy]

You're a strange one, you really are.

 

[beddy]

You should Know with the advice you dish out

 

[TheWand]

I use a lot of betokontakt - any difference to blue grit?

You mean apart from being pink, rollering on fast, going much further & taking half the skim to cover?

You tell me, you use a lot of it ... apparently?

So how are you giving advice to use blue grit id you don't know what it's like to use?

I assume all bonding agents are the same ?

:RpS_laugh:

 

[church]

i think betokontakt is the best b/a ,ive use so far , but not used micro , are the bits smaller in micro than betokontakt ? and can you skim micro the same day ?

 

[Fatarm]

:RpS_laugh:

 

[church]

Ok, churchy - agree that beto lovely b/a to work with - blue grit kill suction more than beto ?

never used blue grit mate , i think they all kill suction but beto has smaller bits and spreads better than say the bg bond it stuff .

 

[Fatarm]

Come on!

Feckin love you ryan....:RpS_thumbup:

 

[church]

i use stablilex first on high suction then beto works for me .

 

[brimplas1]

Blue grit is terrible, it give a surface that is harder to cover than artex.... trying to put it on even is a right choir. .. I find soverigns past prime a lot better. I have used beto before and have to keep mixing it as it's like piss water...

 

[church]

can you use soverigns plas prime the same day ?

 

[beddy]

Micro is nice stuff. Id say wba is probably slightly better since they changed the micro. but micro is more cost effective imo and in most cases can be skimmed an hour later.