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lucius

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I meant a decent cordless. There is no shortage of power with the 22v Hilti. Sod trailing a cable around behind you. The r******d boarders on the site i'm on at the moment are using impact drivers and they couldn't set a screw tothe correct depth to save their lives. Actually told their gaffer today that I was finishing on Friday because I can't work with the c@nts.
Dont sound like the drills mate sound like the ***** on the other end of them
 

DannyMac

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I meant a decent cordless. There is no shortage of power with the 22v Hilti. Sod trailing a cable around behind you. The r******d boarders on the site i'm on at the moment are using impact drivers and they couldn't set a screw tothe correct depth to save their lives. Actually told their gaffer today that I was finishing on Friday because I can't work with the c@nts.

How much is the hilti with a couple of batteries and a charger?
 

stevebt

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Thats expensive for a used 4000a especially when it comes with the older style collated attachment. I would expect to get a 5000 used for that and with the new style attachment.
 

beddy

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Tony can you buy a decent drywall bit attachment for a normal screwgun? The type that comes in a hilti that sets a screw to the perfect depth? I've tried the 2 cheapo types from screwfix but they're s**t
 

lucius

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Ithink Beddy means just the bit holder with depth setting Tony, have you tried the bits with the cup round them Steve, some people get on with them i only found them any use on 9.5 and i dont do a lot of that.
 

beddy

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I've got a 14.4 bosch. Would like to get the hilti but its not a must at the minute. Yeah I've tried them andy and the metallic blue type, didn't like either of them
 

Jgreenplastering

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Ive got the Makita BFR750Z 18v Auto feed
Had it a few years and never let me down. Cuts the boarding time by half easily. Great for overboard old ceilings to.
Its also down to the user I think. Its not like a normal PZ2 bit in a drill!
You cant screw at angles or it will jam or mess the bit up. You must screw in straight! The amount of times Ive seen some divy use these or normal drills and screw at angles but not follow the screw and then say this drills shite it dont screw in!!!!!!!!!!! ......... no it you you FCUKIn divvvy you can use a drill properly.
 

Redman

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We have three a dura fix a senco and a hilti there all good but the hilti is the best we have a SF 4000 with auto feed attachment but with the 18v senco you can use 75mm collated scews
 

Smurth1984

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Might know a tacker selling a 110v senco good working order box and spare screw attachments etc.
as he going to work in oz if interested drop us a message if you know any body that wants one.
 

TonyM

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I have given into temptation and ordered a Hilti 22v impact driver today. Only ordered the bare gun and case as I already have charger and batteries with my other guns. It is lighter and more compact than the drill/driver I have, so Happy (but noisy) Days!
 

theblones

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My mates got a good system boarding tone. He cuts and fixes with his impact and his mate follows doing the insulation on the walls and finishing the screwing with the strip gun
 

TonyM

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Out With The Old & In With The New.

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Like the new smaller charger and longer lasting 3.3ah batteries.
 

oneandl

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Had a makita which jammed to much which put me off makitas, not saying there all bad. Tried senco battery and corded, don't like the depth stop on them. Changes with pressure too inconsistent for me and the nose doesn't have enough surface area or it's too much pressure is needed, even with the 75mm attachment on the ds275 or 3000 it leaves a depression i don't like. Had hilti sf4oo0 and something, corded with smi 55 loved it, now got hilti sd5200 corded with smd attachment, great consistent depth stop, not much of a depression off the nose, light, not much pressure needed and rarely jams. Looking for a 240 as i need some versatility, need a few guns on the go and need some to move around, different properties and upstairs so don't want to be lugging transormers around and running leads upstairs. more leads to carry in, unwind,wind up and take out so looking for some 240 screwguns on circuit breakers. Not keen on the batteries, having several batteries on the go and chargers can get confusing when busy and a pain moving them around, plugging in and unplugging several times a day eats up time and i find they've not got the power of corded.
Looking at the bosch gsr 6 45 with ma55 attachment and concept autofeed. Bosch has 700 watt input motor, max 55 mm screw with bottom loading screws making it easier to get into the corners, looks smooth but more than twice the price of the concept which looks like it may need more pressure but hard to tell from a video and it has top loading screws which seem to load slightly smoother but cant get close in on internal corners but will take up to 75mm with extra attachment, lot cheaper than bosch, only got a 470 watt motor and haven't found torque figures as the unloaded spin speed is the same but torque can vary significantly depending on efficiency of the motor, or so i've read. Anyone tried either the bosch or concept?
 

TonyM

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Not keen on the batteries, having several batteries on the go and chargers can get confusing when busy and a pain moving them around, plugging in and unplugging several times a day eats up time and i find they've not got the power of corded.
Yes, because that is really hard and must take up all of 3 minutes of my day.
 

CTPlastering

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I have a makita 750 18v , cheap screws make it jam , I learnt that , I havnt had a jam since I started using better screws still 12 quid a box incl vat so not bad. Saves so much time and not getting screws stuk in ya fingas tryin to get a one out ya pouch !
 

johniosaif

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I find the new cordless makitas very soft compared to the older 110v. My new one often had problems with 75mm screws, it is not worth the extra cost as 75 mm is not too often required..
 

Builderboi

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Ccf do the senco screws at 8quid plus found they real good ,hope it help,ps buy in bulk for a better rate,not like they gona go bad.
 

TonyM

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Ccf do the senco screws at 8quid plus found they real good ,hope it help,ps buy in bulk for a better rate,not like they gona go bad.

Hilti will do a deal on screws if you push them, although I generally pay around £6+vat for 35mm collated.
 

Builderboi

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That's a real good price, is that you dealing with hilti salesman tony m? Saw down my local buildersmerchant 1000 bg collated for 25 squid plus, wtf! Lol
 

TonyM

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That's a real good price, is that you dealing with hilti salesman tony m? Saw down my local buildersmerchant 1000 bg collated for 25 squid plus, wtf! Lol
Best Hilti can do is around £8. I get them from a local fixings company.
Ace fixings are competitive too
 

oneandl

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Yes, because that is really hard and must take up all of 3 minutes of my day.

Pros and cons to batteries Tony. Initial cost is one thing, never needing to buy new batteries another and you know how much they cost. Good for small areas but for a small team working tog​ether screwing all day needs a lot of batteries and chargers. We're efficient and save time anywhere we can, not with one big thing but an accumulation of things. Carrying and unplugging chargers and batteries all lumped together in buckets sometimes getting batteries mixed up with flat and full, setting them up again several times a day costs more than 3 minutes through the day and adds up over the week,month,year. Busy so don't get back to change a battery over or a flat gets loaded by mistake so have to swap while boards are being held up. Tried it, more trouble than lumping a transformer and leads. If i can knock half an hour off my day saving time in lots of small ways, who can argue with that.
Anyway bought a concept (corded) will give it a go.
 
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