its quite simple if you don't like there methods stop and question the people , if its not upto standard question the people, if you don't like there answers sack them , your the paymaster in the end, but don't let them finish then tell them, do it sooner rather than later it'll cost more to put other peoples work right.
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Justchecking
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No, that's why I'm asking it. Come on plasterers, is there no straight answer to my question? Are they doing the job right or wrong, if wrong, in what way. Thanks.
Justchecking
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My profession is irrelevant to my question or this conversation. It's best if the people I'm paying to do a job are polite and know their place.
Justchecking
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Thanks, yes I may have to do that but I thought that a forum full of plasterers may be able to answer my question
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jesssop
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then take it up with them how can we possibly tell you if its right or wrong without seeing it or really knowing what you have asked for?
And what you gonna do about it if we tell you its wrong?
Justchecking
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Thanks, I've already questioned them but of course they say their method is correct. Again my point is I'm trying to establish if their method is "up to standard", standard practice that is.
tined82
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Thanks, yes I may have to do that but I thought that a forum full of plasterers may be able to answer my question
From what your telling us they sound like a gang of chancers. Its hard to give an honest verdict on here without pics. seeing it in the flesh will let you know for sure. Like I said previously get a second opinion.
mikeadams1985
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pictures. just send pictures to us
johniosaif
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You hired cheap non English speaking people who have brought their own methods for this type of work, then its our fault, these methods are non standard to anyone here, this is a problem and I do sympathise with you ,I would be annoyed if I could not communicate and if I lost faith or was worried as you are that problems may be more apparent later, its best at this point to have a meeting with the company that you hired and get it all sorted out once and for all, it's your money, your house, all banter aside ,get it to some sort of order before your fears are realised, that aside ,it may turn out that they are doing good work, a panicking client with little knowledge is also un helpful
Justchecking
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I have taken it up with them and have been told their method is correct. I don't know how "seeing it" will be any more helpful to you. It's a plastered wall, I'm not questioning how smooth the finish is, I'm questioning if they are using the correct materials. I certainly haven't asked them to plaster my walls using incorrect materials!
jesssop
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if the finish is good whats your problem? read the bags that will tell you if they are ok
Justchecking
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If you read my replies to others you will see that I've said they are certainly not cheap. The company owner is British, I didn't know in advance that all his employees were Polish. As for "little knowledge", that's why I'm here!!! To ask specialists so I can gain that knowledge. Sadly I don't seem to be getting an answer as to whether their methods and materials are standard practice.
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johniosaif
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Read what I said, see the bit about non standard, ignore the banter bit,best of luck getting it sorted
Justchecking
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So are you saying that any plastering is sound as long as the finish is "good"? I've already described the materials they are using.
jesssop
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based on that i would say they are fine :RpS_thumbup: sleep tight zzzz
that still is not helping with materials right or wrong ,its all down to you , tell them you what you want ,eastern Europeans use this method applying joint cement and sand down , not my method or most spread on this forum , but if finish is good and flat, paints nice there shouldn't be a problem ,your asking for opinions on something no one can see :rolleyes)
Im sorry, but is it just me but why is it that all these customers that come on this forum under a witch hunt all seem to be out of the same mould!!!
1)ARROGANT
2)ATTITUDE PROBLEM
3)GIVEN ADVISE BUT NOT ACTUALY LISTENING
4)GIVEN POINTERS AS IN POST SOME PICS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BUT THEN DONT!
5)THEN START PICKING STRIPS OFF VERY EXPERIANCED TRADESMAN WHO COULD ACTUALY HELP BUT INSTEAD JUST ATTAGONISE!!!
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!:RpS_thumbdn:
1)ARROGANT
2)ATTITUDE PROBLEM
3)GIVEN ADVISE BUT NOT ACTUALY LISTENING
4)GIVEN POINTERS AS IN POST SOME PICS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT BUT THEN DONT!
5)THEN START PICKING STRIPS OFF VERY EXPERIANCED TRADESMAN WHO COULD ACTUALY HELP BUT INSTEAD JUST ATTAGONISE!!!
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!:RpS_thumbdn:
My God... just get a local plasterer to have a loom if you think its wrong... and your attitude will get you no help son..
Jace
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its joint cement not plaster right...........soooooooo your walls are not plastered they are filled so if your paying for plastering you are not getting plastering your getting filling, you could have realised that your self your just here to cause agg, then when people say they dont want to coment without seeing it first, you get sarky, now you have your answer
irish_spread
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In my HO Justchecking you are asking a valid question here. With Polish 'specialists ' it's hit and miss. 90% of their plasterers are sh1t.FACT. And my mrs is Polish. Doing a £10+++ million flat in Regents park at the moment and the builder has chucked all the Poles off the job and got us in, complaining he's paying through the nose for it lol
raggles
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I believe it has already been said earlier in the thread that the method they are using would appear to us to be an American type approach to the works or certainly not a method of work that a lot of us on the forum are familiar with. As John has already said have a word with their foreman. There are finishes available that are finished by sanding but these are generally spray applied to plaster boards/old plaster.
Without us knowing or seeing the exact substrate and materials that are being used frankly it would be very hard for us to comment on the suitability and longevity of the method and materials.
Not a lot of help to you i know but, it is all i could comment on/ suggest.
Marshy
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I can using some photos if you like?? :rolleyes)
johniosaif
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Bloody irish are worse, as for them English god help us..
irish_spread
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They em had an English guy before us, top quality but I've never seen walls so shiny in my whole life. Italian guys doing Venetian afterwards, slagged off gooldtrowels, liked Mike Wye :RpS_sneaky:
stuart23
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@Justchecking what does it say on the quote they are going to do to your walls?
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johniosaif
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We just plastered a flat that was then polished plastered, even the one coat guys would of been good enough
Marshy
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irish_spread
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TOTALLY disagree. Decorator had a halogen 2" from wall and filled, filled and filled this wall this (perfect) wall English guy did before we got there. I asked , why ?, decorator showed me test panels they had put Venetian over, looked terrible. Italian guy will be on here soon
johniosaif
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But the polish plasterers put on three coats, surely that would kill any blemishes
where is the English guy now, did you push him off
TonyM
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If they are using bonding compound, as in drywall adhesive, which I expect they are as it's only a fiver a bag, then this is far too brittle a product to be putting alongside original lath and plaster. It might look nice for a while, but if there is any movement in the vacinity in future, you may well find it all down on your floor. Oh, and Arrow Lite Joint Cement is cheap and soft as f@ck.
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