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Yeah was gonna get a handboard , like the handles but looks a bit cackhanded for my liking

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Speedskim just 4 flatten the blue one is good. I have the eze spat 600 don't think I'd try and finish with it. Maybe I should tho

Also for @john simpson

Did this ceiling on my own today,around 55m2 in it on my own, once on all troweled with the 800 eze spat, with the angles just tidied with the trowel, I'm still a novice with it really but with a bit of advice of @Marshy and a few days practice on smaller ceilings, this was in comparison to using a trowel an absolute doddle, the bigger the area the more advantageous it is.
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fair bit of meterage , stilts or did you use pole?
havent even tried nela yet , ill wait before i leap to plastic
 
fair bit of meterage , stilts or did you use pole?
havent even tried nela yet , ill wait before i leap to plastic

All put on with trowel off a 8ft bench John, threw the stilts away years ago as I came off them once, can't work on your own with them anyway.
Then it's all 'troweled' with the spat on the pole.
 
Thats impressive , im the same , stopped using stilts and working off bench.
I need one of these , how do you wet it ?
 
I use a brick laying trowel to put first coat on then margin trowel for 2ND then I find the closest thing near me to trowel up which was my dog. Was a ruff finish tho.
 
I use a brick laying trowel to put first coat on then margin trowel for 2ND then I find the closest thing near me to trowel up which was my dog. Was a ruff finish tho.

I'm open to new things , I've worked on several continents and seem some weird stuff in plastering.
All of it looked decent in the end no matter how alien it seemed to me.
 
Thats impressive , im the same , stopped using stilts and working off bench.
I need one of these , how do you wet it ?

There are lads that use them that say they don't wet it at all.
However I am finding I have to, whether it be the present humid weather or the way I use it I don't know, very little water but some all the same, I use a little hand held spray bottle the ones you pump at the top, just to put a mist on it.
Without it I was getting tears & some juddering.
 
Thanks for photos and feedback , it would make my life easier for doing the big ceilings.
Maybe after the NeLa experience ill try one out :)
 
Well impressive from Gypsumtools!
Ordered around lunchtime yesterday and arrived today, thats some going.

wish i had that pole thing today , ceiling as usual just too high for my hop up and also about 2ft wider that i thought so couldnt reach end to end.
Up and down like a fiddlers elbow and half plasterboard , half paint and half some sort of chip fat grease which was lovely to lean into on top the minging cupboards.
ended up working off steps instead , then managed to hit my skim beads that i set with the finish.

Plus the client was there all fecking day standing at the kitchen doorway and i mean all day talking shite.
Anyways , cant complain , was only a few hours and finish it off handy tomorrow, rant over.

So this NeLa thing , ill practice on a small wall ive to do and let you know how it goes ,

Throw on and close in with MT and final trowels with NeLa? Am i cutting into the finish at all or just going light over it
Oh does it need broke in?
 
It's not supposed to need breaking in John, but it will be better after 3 or 4 days use.
Tips to start with would be;
When you would normally give it a trowel, leave it an extra 5 mins to pick up more.
No water, just keep wiping the trowel clean with brush.
You'll find your own way after a few days from there
 
All rite , cheers , ive a small wall tomorrow to do and a load of skimming next week so ill give it a good go and report back
 
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