Well said Ian, we love a bit of banter and fanny used to be good at it but he seems to have taken it to a personal level against the machine section or a couple of people on it. All these people do, is give advice and help, we spend a lot of time fanny helping people over phone , which means we have to stop what we are doing so it actually costs us money, Stuart ( monkey) properly spends at least 2 hours a week plus, giving advice for free and I spend about the same, Ian ( sprayit) i know does the same,. You see fanny, you snipe at every chance about us wanting to sell machines but you miss the point big time, it because of the passion we have about machine plastering, we don't care if someone buys from ebay, or anywhere else as long as there not ripped off and don't buy a dog and thats why we are here . I took the time to look at your posts on here and you really don't give a lot to this forum do you ?. most of them, you are taking the (french word) or sniping at someone. I used to think you were OK but i now think your a sad little man who has some real issues.