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Confused now, am I right in thinking it's gonna take 1899 clowns or customers to put this bloody motorbike in the fu@£in loft!!!??
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Cos old ceiling is cracked and dont want mess of pulling it down
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Tis a strange cat...mine eats its own or the other cats sick if it gets a chance
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@imago thinks an overboard will make your ceiling sag or fall down
Ok thats cool I was wondering As if its cracked bad I think its usually down to nails have pulled slightly so i re screw the area bandage crack and skim and years later still good. Lathe and plaster tell customer needs to come down if bad but if they dont wanna do that then yeah fair enough and probably safer than moody lathe work anyway
I'm gonna get into the polystyrene ceiling tile trade again I thought they looked lovelyno over boarding then
We had these at my mums place up until i finally re plastered it. Me and my brother used to poke it. Was funny at first but looked a mess
"Bandage crack and skim" sounds like something a dodgy beauty parlour might offer!!! rofl haha.Ok thats cool I was wondering As if its cracked bad I think its usually down to nails have pulled slightly so i re screw the area bandage crack and skim and years later still good. Lathe and plaster tell customer needs to come down if bad but if they dont wanna do that then yeah fair enough and probably safer than moody lathe work anyway
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Thanks for adding the fruits of your many years of experience to the debate, very helpful.
So on one side of the debate we have plasterers of various experience levels saying that overboarding to a ceiling, doubling the weight of the ceiling materials, below a loft space is fine. Offering 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' as evidence of good practice.
On the other side of the debate we have architects, structural engineers, and a builder saying overboarding to a ceiling below a loft space is not OK. Offering the building regs, joist span tables, BG's very own whitebook, basic maths and physics as evidence.
Hmm, yeah I see where you're coming from lads. It'll be fine.
I wonder how BG will view overboarding ceilings below a loft space for their the two year guarantee? Given that in C06 their whitebook says that the joists should be suitable to carry the imposed load perhaps they'll accept the 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' line as evidence of checking?
Wow wow wow knw1 ever said overboarding below a loft space that's crazy man!! Shame on u lodan for not telling me the full story..Thanks for adding the fruits of your many years of experience to the debate, very helpful.
So on one side of the debate we have plasterers of various experience levels saying that overboarding to a ceiling, doubling the weight of the ceiling materials, below a loft space is fine. Offering 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' as evidence of good practice.
On the other side of the debate we have architects, structural engineers, and a builder saying overboarding to a ceiling below a loft space is not OK. Offering the building regs, joist span tables, BG's very own whitebook, basic maths and physics as evidence.
Hmm, yeah I see where you're coming from lads. It'll be fine.
I wonder how BG will view overboarding ceilings below a loft space for their the two year guarantee? Given that in C06 their whitebook says that the joists should be suitable to carry the imposed load perhaps they'll accept the 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' line as evidence of checking?
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wish I could do that
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Come on this was a wicked thread first few pages,
Put the overboard ceiling debate to bed and let's get the forum meet up party started
It's one of those things where there are two opposing views and both sides will keep their opinions. That's fine, and especially when you consider it's just waffle on the internet.
As for the start of this thread, I'm serious. The first opportunity that comes up for a suitable job I'll throw the invite out. It makes no odds to me how the pricing is done, as I've said before day rate, job price, meterage is all the same to me. I would suggest though, that in the interests of fairness everyone gets their heads together and decide on one rate so that everyone's in the same boat.
I reckon depending on numbers it'd be two days plastering and banter.
Followed by a night on the p1ss with more banter 
and then back home and onto the forum to start calling everyone out and posting photo's. 
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Just to add, if any ceilings need doing I'll have them down and stripped before any plasterers turn up to start boarding.
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Birmingham, but I do get about a bit for the right jobs. Early last year we were working in Devon with the kind assistance of @Olican this year and last year Wales. Mostly in and around Birmingham/Redditch.
There's perfect job for this, but I've not had confirmation/dates. It's a barn conversion near Redditch which may be next year. Five beds, two or three bathroom etc. Plenty of room to park, quiet, secure, five minutes from the M42 on the West side of Birmingham. It'd be spot on as it'd pretty much be a new build inside an old (16th century) barn so there'd be everything from board and skim, through float and set to lime work. Even some screeding for those into that. So with the exception of rendering it'd cover all the plastering disciplines. Something for everyone.
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Most joists would hold it though joists at 300-400 plus reducing the screw space will help Bg spec that even on mf ceiling it's should be 150 centres on the perimeter and 230 across the ceiling how many follow this I don't know but how many run to a full spec a bag of multi states that you put 11.5 Ltrs of water in and that is miles off what it should be its like tar way to thick so can't always go off a specThanks for adding the fruits of your many years of experience to the debate, very helpful.
So on one side of the debate we have plasterers of various experience levels saying that overboarding to a ceiling, doubling the weight of the ceiling materials, below a loft space is fine. Offering 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' as evidence of good practice.
On the other side of the debate we have architects, structural engineers, and a builder saying overboarding to a ceiling below a loft space is not OK. Offering the building regs, joist span tables, BG's very own whitebook, basic maths and physics as evidence.
Hmm, yeah I see where you're coming from lads. It'll be fine.
I wonder how BG will view overboarding ceilings below a loft space for their the two year guarantee? Given that in C06 their whitebook says that the joists should be suitable to carry the imposed load perhaps they'll accept the 'it's always been alright when I've done it before' line as evidence of checking?
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No argument from me on that score. It's making an informed choice based on what you can see and experience. It's the blanket statement that it's OK to overboard with no thought never mind looking in the loft at joists to see what's what that I take issue with.
Well, that and storing motorbikes up there.
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If they are on the bg scheme , then yes ,lol
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