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hi all...Im looking for some advice on which type of external render and internal plaster would work on a solid brick wall that's in a pitiful state!:oops:
its been a mixture of confusing suggestions from various tradesmen since i bought the house several months ago.
the wall in question is a gable end of what was once a cowshed but was joined to the house a long time ago to form a utility room . its solid brick and get the brunt of the weather {most often rain around my area}.
its been repointed with cement mortar at some point in time.
quite a few brick a blown on the outside, some to a depth of around 5mm or so.
on top of that, its been painted with sandtex which is flaking off!
the inside was damp when i first got here but ive taken it back to brick removing all plaster etc and its since dried out.
my {old school} plasterer said to sand and cement render the outside but i feel thats going to bring back the damp!
I think it out to be a breathable render /plaster on both sides but what do i know {not much when it comes to this stuff:frenetico:}
Any advice would be hugely appreciated...what would you do if it were your wall??
thanks in advance(y)
 
emzy said:
hi all...Im looking for some advice on which type of external render and internal plaster would work on a solid brick wall that's in a pitiful state!:oops:
its been a mixture of confusing suggestions from various tradesmen since i bought the house several months ago.
the wall in question is a gable end of what was once a cowshed but was joined to the house a long time ago to form a utility room . its solid brick and get the brunt of the weather {most often rain around my area}.
its been repointed with cement mortar at some point in time.
quite a few brick a blown on the outside, some to a depth of around 5mm or so.
on top of that, its been painted with sandtex which is flaking off!
the inside was damp when i first got here but ive taken it back to brick removing all plaster etc and its since dried out.
my {old school} plasterer said to sand and cement render the outside but i feel thats going to bring back the damp!
I think it out to be a breathable render /plaster on both sides but what do i know {not much when it comes to this stuff:frenetico:}
Any advice would be hugely appreciated...what would you do if it were your wall??
thanks in advance(y)
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I live in a 200 odd year-old cottage, built with solid brick walls.
I'm taking off the sand and cement render and replacing it with an insulated render system.
90mm GEPS with a Monorex EHI render over. This can be finished in a sympathetic manner to suit an older property.
 
essexandy said:
I live in a 200 odd year-old cottage, built with solid brick walls.
I'm taking off the sand and cement render and replacing it with an insulated render system.
90mm GEPS with a Monorex EHI render over. This can be finished in a sympathetic manner to suit an older property.
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Sympathetic manner! U mean slap it on and sponge it ya rough b*****d :ROFLMAO:
 
emzy said:
hi all...Im looking for some advice on which type of external render and internal plaster would work on a solid brick wall that's in a pitiful state!:oops:
its been a mixture of confusing suggestions from various tradesmen since i bought the house several months ago.
the wall in question is a gable end of what was once a cowshed but was joined to the house a long time ago to form a utility room . its solid brick and get the brunt of the weather {most often rain around my area}.
its been repointed with cement mortar at some point in time.
quite a few brick a blown on the outside, some to a depth of around 5mm or so.
on top of that, its been painted with sandtex which is flaking off!
the inside was damp when i first got here but ive taken it back to brick removing all plaster etc and its since dried out.
my {old school} plasterer said to sand and cement render the outside but i feel thats going to bring back the damp!
I think it out to be a breathable render /plaster on both sides but what do i know {not much when it comes to this stuff:frenetico:}
Any advice would be hugely appreciated...what would you do if it were your wall??
thanks in advance(y)
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If you didn't want his advice, why did you ask him?
 
emzy said:
hi all...Im looking for some advice on which type of external render and internal plaster would work on a solid brick wall that's in a pitiful state!:oops:
its been a mixture of confusing suggestions from various tradesmen since i bought the house several months ago.
the wall in question is a gable end of what was once a cowshed but was joined to the house a long time ago to form a utility room . its solid brick and get the brunt of the weather {most often rain around my area}.
its been repointed with cement mortar at some point in time.
quite a few brick a blown on the outside, some to a depth of around 5mm or so.
on top of that, its been painted with sandtex which is flaking off!
the inside was damp when i first got here but ive taken it back to brick removing all plaster etc and its since dried out.
my {old school} plasterer said to sand and cement render the outside but i feel thats going to bring back the damp!
I think it out to be a breathable render /plaster on both sides but what do i know {not much when it comes to this stuff:frenetico:}
Any advice would be hugely appreciated...what would you do if it were your wall??
thanks in advance(y)
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@luke105
 
Hi guys, here's a couple of pics of the outside
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John j said:
Or I could just do it lol
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essexandy said:
I live in a 200 odd year-old cottage, built with solid brick walls.
I'm taking off the sand and cement render and replacing it with an insulated render system.
90mm GEPS with a Monorex EHI render over. This can be finished in a sympathetic manner to suit an older property.
Click to expand...
Hi, thanks for reply...do you have any issues with damp/blown brick in the area which has the cement mortar?
I'm wondering if I render the external, will the moisture that's in the brick be forced to exit through the inside wall where I'm intending to plaster.
Insulation is not my priority since it's going to be used as a utility room and the temperature inside won't affect the rest of the house
 
emzy said:
Hi, thanks for reply...do you have any issues with damp/blown brick in the area which has the cement mortar?
I'm wondering if I render the external, will the moisture that's in the brick be forced to exit through the inside wall where I'm intending to plaster.
Insulation is not my priority since it's going to be used as a utility room and the temperature inside won't affect the rest of the house
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We used to get damp and mould on the walls. But that was damp that was penetrating the walls, just that the brickwork was cold and the internal surface was the dew point. I'd definitely look to insulate that brickwork regardless of what you're going to use the room for. Just my opinion, I don't consider myself an expert in this field. @lurpak what do you think?
 
essexandy said:
We used to get damp and mould on the walls. But that was damp that was penetrating the walls, just that the brickwork was cold and the internal surface was the dew point. I'd definitely look to insulate that brickwork regardless of what you're going to use the room for. Just my opinion, I don't consider myself an expert in this field. @lurpak what do you think?
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He ain’t been on since April has he?
 
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