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Still panicing mate ? Never really heard of it my self , it should be waterproof with the addatives in the s and c . Rain and frost is a problem if it can get behind the render then freezes really rather than sealing the face of the wall .....
 
Still panicing mate ? Never really heard of it my self , it should be waterproof with the addatives in the s and c . Rain and frost is a problem if it can get behind the render then freezes really rather than sealing the face of the wall .....
no m8 not panicking theirs only waterproof in scratch what it is theirs so much moss here on say 2 year work espeshily if a wall is south west shan't to keep work protected we get so much rain here on the foot of snowdon thout it b a goo idea
 
There's a product I use on brickwork called facade cream by sovereign chemicals.
It drys back clear and you don't know it's been used, good for porous materials but not sure about moss/algae protection, that's something that comes with living in strong weathered areas and may not be something that can be fully stopped.
 
There's a product I use on brickwork called facade cream by sovereign chemicals.
It drys back clear and you don't know it's been used, good for porous materials but not sure about moss/algae protection, that's something that comes with living in strong weathered areas and may not be something that can be fully stopped.
Thompson water seal good stuff or cementone the rain beads off
 
Thompson water seal good stuff or cementone the rain beads off

Here do u work for thomspons its s**t and its what u always mention ? And sealing etc . U go on like ur not a plasterer?? Well thats natural . From ur other post it seems odd . So u put no addative at all in top coat ? I think u dont no what ur doing ? Just a guess ? I think ur a maintenance man with damp problems ?
 
U have to paint flat renders . There is dashing my grandad done that still looks good . Dunno if its just pebble and light etc but its known as a longlasting finish . U paint and its a time bomb
 
Here do u work for thomspons its s**t and its what u always mention ? And sealing etc . U go on like ur not a plasterer?? Well thats natural . From ur other post it seems odd . So u put no addative at all in top coat ? I think u dont no what ur doing ? Just a guess ? I think ur a maintenance man with damp problems ?
if b in the trade 30 years and I don't work for thompsons or any other company if c loads of chimneys gable ends only 5years old covered whith moss espeshely if the face the weather side wher do u live Spain wher u get plenty of sun there a climate change m8 difrent to when your grandfather was plastering 40 years u nead sun to kill moss if render absorbs rain without sun U get moss and south west gable will look 100 years old in 5 years look on k rend 30 year guarantee they paint the wheather side in 5 years lol ol streaks and looks treble but look on north side it perfect do u know what your talking about
 
Here do u work for thomspons its s**t and its what u always mention ? And sealing etc . U go on like ur not a plasterer?? Well thats natural . From ur other post it seems odd . So u put no addative at all in top coat ? I think u dont no what ur doing ? Just a guess ? I think ur a maintenance man with damp problems ?
No m8 I use lime in top coat u do not add addative to lime or it will react I bet u ad waterproofed whith lime lol
 
How will it react?
What will happen?
it weakens the mix in a way causing shrinkage and cracking never mix anything to gether what the point it like having two anti virus on pc both fighting each other by the way I now nothing bout pic lol
I put addatives with lime once and it blew the mixer up :asadito:[/QUOTE must of b strong addative to do that m8 or your mixer was on the way out lol
 
it weakens the mix in a way causing shrinkage and cracking never mix anything to gether what the point it like having two anti virus on pc both fighting each other by the way I now nothing bout pic lol

Lime weakens any mix, no more so with waterproofer.
Doesn't cause shrinking or cracking either.

What's the point?
To have a better more workable mix.
If anyone told me not to use a plasticiser with any s&c I'd tell them to do it themselves.
 
Lime weakens any mix, no more so with waterproofer.
Doesn't cause shrinking or cracking either.

What's the point?
To have a better more workable mix.
If anyone told me not to use a plasticiser with any s&c I'd tell them to do it themselves.
Do u use waterproof in the mix whith lime?
 
Yes, I know your not supposed to, but I haven't had a problem in over 20 years.
S&c mixes with lime with no plastic et are more prone to shrinkage cracks as there is a much higher volume of water in the mix
 
Yes, I know your not supposed to, but I haven't had a problem in over 20 years.
S&c mixes with lime with no plastic et are more prone to shrinkage cracks as there is a much higher volume of water in the mix
So u do ad waterprooer then I only put it in scratch I'm just going what the manufacture say if u do ad waterprooer whith lime how do u explain to
 
So your asking people for advice, which your getting it then your telling us were all wrong?! [emoji23][emoji23]
Why don't you get a Dictionary, learn how to spell and speak correctly while taking a few more lessons in plastering then come back and tell us we don't have a clue!
Why are you asking for a product that acts as a sealer and then when told which one may help you tell me what one you use???
 
So your asking people for advice, which your getting it then your telling us were all wrong?!
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Why don't you get a Dictionary, learn how to spell and speak correctly while taking a few more lessons in plastering then come back and tell us we don't have a clue!
Why are you asking for a product that acts as a sealer and then when told which one may help you tell me what one you use???
Im not saying your wrong and if I can't spell u can't read it says on a bag of lime do not ad admixture so who hasent got a clue know???? By the way English is my second language so my spelling is a bit dodgy Cymru am byth
 
Im not saying your wrong and if I can't spell u can't read it says on a bag of lime do not ad admixture so who hasent got a clue know???? By the way English is my second language so my spelling is a bit dodgy Cymru am byth

It used to say persil on the bus but it didn't mean it was going to the launderette.

It says lots of things on manufacturers bags etc.
Experience tells you when & when not to take heed of that advice.

A few posts ago you were telling us it would 'react', 'shrink & crack', now your resorting to advice on the bag!
 
It used to say persil on the bus but it didn't mean it was going to the launderette.

It says lots of things on manufacturers bags etc.
Experience tells you when & when not to take heed of that advice.

A few posts ago you were telling us it would 'react', 'shrink & crack', now your resorting to advice on the bag![/QU 0k m8 from know on I shall not take any notice from any manufacturers thanks for the advice take care
 
I wonder if any other tradesmen ignore what the manufactures say if was a come back u haven't got a leg to stand on
 
You haven't got a leg to stand on anyway when using sand & cement which YOU buy individually from merchants YOU then put additives with and YOU then mix it all by hand/whisk/machine etc.
If YOU can find a manufacturer that will accept liability for a sand and cement finish failing please pass ME there numbers!
 
You haven't got a leg to stand on anyway when using sand & cement which YOU buy individually from merchants YOU then put additives with and YOU then mix it all by hand/whisk/machine etc.
If YOU can find a manufacturer that will accept liability for a sand and cement finish failing please pass ME there numbers!
Ok m8 I get wher u coming from I mite as well use frotproofer whith lime and other stuff on the market y listen to the manufactures they know nothing to some lads on this site shall we use a bit of fairy liquid in 5 11 mix lol do u use waterproof in lime mix.
 
I wonder if any other tradesmen ignore what the manufactures say if was a come back u haven't got a leg to stand on

Seeing as I haven't had one in over twenty years i think I'll risk it.

Using lime mortar however is another matter
 
Im not saying your wrong and if I can't spell u can't read it says on a bag of lime do not ad admixture so who hasent got a clue know???? By the way English is my second language so my spelling is a bit dodgy Cymru am byth

Never had any problems 5/1/1 etc and some plastersiser . Shrinking is having to much water in the mix and as it drys it cracks . Obviously only the lowest gauge of addative to water that what ever product you use for the top coat . And sadly am not from spain am on me holiday am from sunny new castle ..... And live by the coast
 
Never had any problems 5/1/1 etc and some plastersiser . Shrinking is having to much water in the mix and as it drys it cracks . Obviously only the lowest gauge of addative to water that what ever product you use for the top coat . And sadly am not from spain am on me holiday am from sunny new castle ..... And live by the coast
We mite as well use a bit of fairy liquid to get the workability nice and fluffy have a nice holiday m8 bring some nice weather back whith u amen
 
We mite as well use a bit of fairy liquid to get the workability nice and fluffy have a nice holiday m8 bring some nice weather back whith u amen

Might aswell use a 3-1 add thats made for it though rather than fairy ? It does work thou aswell lol and cheers mate touch wood i will am bak monday so will wait and see haha :birra:
 
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