well has anybody got any definate work on to start in new year, pricing/estimates is it as busy as in previous years, at time of writing not a thing to start next year, not pricing anything either, but as we all know it just takes one phone call and it could change, problem is though i get the feeling this recession is going to be the hardest ever, in the past20/30 years in carlisle basically all the main factories have closed down, the main goverment employers are closing or reducing staffing levels and so on and so on, once these factories go they are not coming back, in the past when there was a recession at least people were still working ,still had a job and a wage, but not now, and i do think this will be repeated all over the country.,, comet for example have just ,6,000 plus staff of all levels are out of work, put another way 6,000 potential customers will be cutting back, i hope i am very very wrong but somehow i think unfourtanetly i am right.:RpS_mellow: