The grey area

[The_one_coat_wizard]

You can plaster on every single site I've ever been on with a green card (labourers) card. This is pretty much common knowledge to any one.

So what is the point in being qualified and holding the blue card?

 

[tapit]

Because if you can't do the trade you are employed to do it don't matter a f**k what colour card you have, and vice versa.

 

[smoother09]

Tesco club card be better at least you get your points

 

[paulf]

Tesco club card be better at least you get your points

They tried that but algee smashed it and Tesco had to sack it off.

 

[megamix]

You’ve hit the nail in the head

 

[megamix]

It’s all just a money making con . Got my renew mine next month . I’ve got gold level 3 . Did 3 year apprenticeship 22 years ago . I did it thinking it would secure me work in the future and get better pay . Waste of time . Any monkey can pay £1k and get assessed on the job now .

 

[Danny]

It’s all just a money making con . Got my renew mine next month . I’ve got gold level 3 . Did 3 year apprenticeship 22 years ago . I did it thinking it would secure me work in the future and get better pay . Waste of time . Any monkey can pay £1k and get assessed on the job now .

Yup and there are companies out there that give nvq out without even visiting the plasterer....

 

[megamix]

Yup and there are companies out there that give nvq out without even visiting the plasterer....

I trained a lad up on site . He paid £1k to get level 2 . The assessor came out once asked me to sign some paperwork saying he can do all those things and a month later he’s qualified

 

[Rossi46]

I bet this doesn’t happen in plumbing and electrics

 

[Danny]

I trained a lad up on site . He paid £1k to get level 2 . The assessor came out once asked me to sign some paperwork saying he can do all those things and a month later he’s qualified

Yup.... seen it a lot of times.... completely devalues a bullshit qualification. Nobody had ever asked for it and probably never will

 

[Rossi46]

Flynnyman was always banging on about needing qualifications/CSCS drifting into the domestic side of work. That’s not looking likely so far.

 

[megamix]

Flynnyman was always banging on about needing qualifications/CSCS drifting into the domestic side of work. That’s not looking likely so far.

Customers don’t give a flying f**k . And neither do checkatrade .

 

[The Hobo]

looks like I will have to pack up I aint got any fcking cards /only for 3 card bragg

 

[Vincey]

Yeah but a bit of pride I’d say to have qualified

 

[smoother09]

I’m not bothered anymore used to really piss me off what’s happened with this trade I have a very I’m alright jack look at it now!

 

[MIXERMAN]

I've got a csc in pottery. Thinking of putting it on side of van

 

[johniosaif]

I got the blue card on the grandfather rule in 2010 , assessment on site ,3visits , hard to fail , heard they’re thinking of taking them off us now , I only used roduced mine Twice

 

[smoother09]

looks like I will have to pack up I aint got any fcking cards /only for 3 card bragg

 

[windy]

I bet this doesn’t happen in plumbing and electrics

Your right
Defo not on gas
With water plumbing you need min city and guilds level 2 from college which is 2 yrs at nite school with exams before you can apply for the skilled worker card via on site assessment . Then you can be assessed on site but there is the usuall charge of around £1100
My plastering one was a doddle . Just in the process of doing the plumbing one now.

 

[windy]

Your right
Defo not on gas
With water plumbing you need min city and guilds level 2 from college which is 2 yrs at nite school with exams before you can apply for the skilled worker card via on site assessment . Then you can be assessed on site but there is the usuall charge of around £1100
My plastering one was a doddle . Just in the process of doing the plumbing one now.

Plus I've found you cant obtain plumbing insurance without proof of qualifications

 

[Rossi46]

So why are they handing out Plastering qualifications like free sweets?
It’s a joke of a trade at times. I used to be really proud to be a plasterer. Now there’s a bit of shame in it for me. Tramps trade.

 

[Cockney]

Your right
Defo not on gas
With water plumbing you need min city and guilds level 2 from college which is 2 yrs at nite school with exams before you can apply for the skilled worker card via on site assessment . Then you can be assessed on site but there is the usuall charge of around £1100
My plastering one was a doddle . Just in the process of doing the plumbing one now.

You better get your arse over to the plumbing forum then!

 

[windy]

So why are they handing out Plastering qualifications like free sweets?
It’s a joke of a trade at times. I used to be really proud to be a plasterer. Now there’s a bit of shame in it for me. Tramps trade.

Has to be to do with safety and hygiene.
Plaster a wall wrong and you can do it again i suppose. The implications for plumbing and gas & electric going wrong could be fatal...
Not saying it's right mind.

 

[windy]

Been on here a lot longer than you buddy

You better get your arse over to the plumbing forum then!

 

[windy]

The world changes you cant fight it .best to roll with it.

 

[essexandy]

Yup and there are companies out there that give nvq out without even visiting the plasterer....

Could you please let me know which ones @Danny me old mate?

 

[megamix]

Crazy isn’t it . A plumber or spark can kill someone so obviously needs to be trained and certified. A builder can pull walls down and leave you for weeks with an unstable property and it’s ok

 

[Cockney]

Been on here a lot longer than you buddy

 

[The Hobo]

I've got a csc in pottery. Thinking of putting it on side of van

if I put all my knowledge on a vehicle I would have to buy a f**k**g artic/just saying

 

[hstoke]

Plus I've found you cant obtain plumbing insurance without proof of qualifications

U on about public liability ?

 

[windy]

U on about public liability ?

Yep
Well you can get it but they ask for proof of competency in the way of quals in the event of a claim.