Retarders in Weber pral M

[BigBish]

Hi everyone.

Now the weather's improving and it's getting warmer, I know I'll go through the usual hard scrapes in the morning.

Other than waiting to lay on later, which I don't want to do as I start at 7 to rub early, would any off the shelf retarders work well?

I've used Parex xcelerator with good results in the spring and Autumn, but don't think I'd get it on and rubbed before nightfall just yet.

Any advice is gratefully received. I'm using pral m. 15mm beads over full rendaid and mesh on 3.5n blocks.

Thanks

Jamie

 

[owls]

Pral m is a quick setter that will soon work in your favour, get it all on early doors, same day finish.
Parex last thing in the day, first thing next day unless it's really warm i.e. 20c.

 

[BigBish]

Thanks mate. Trouble is the house was started two weeks ago before the cold snap and I don't want colour variations.

I've been applying Weber and Parex for over 5 years now daily. But just wondered if a retarder was an option.

Next job will be same day for sure.

 

[Arti]

Used enewall yesterday didn't rub it up till 4 today.
@Rigsby is your man fir doctoring the render

 

[Arti]

Thanks mate. Trouble is the house was started two weeks ago before the cold snap and I don't want colour variations.

I've been applying Weber and Parex for over 5 years now daily. But just wondered if a retarder was an option.

Next job will be same day for sure.

Can't you just spray pral late on??

 

[owls]

Used enewall yesterday didn't rub it up till 4 today.
@Rigsby is your man fir doctoring the render

Enewall is ridulously slow but nice gear to use.

 

[owls]

Thanks mate. Trouble is the house was started two weeks ago before the cold snap and I don't want colour variations.

I've been applying Weber and Parex for over 5 years now daily. But just wondered if a retarder was an option.

Next job will be same day for sure.

Pral m last thing in the day, with a good mist coat of water on it.

 

[BigBish]

Can't you just spray pral late on??

I could. But getting in early (7am) leaving mine at 6. All beading and basecoating done. That's a lot of hanging around after my rub!
I usually wouldn't even contemplate it. I'm just dreading the wall being solid in the morning with daytime temps up to 10c

I guess I'll just play it by ear. And get in earlier if it's too hard as I like to I bar my work before finishing.

Thanks to all.

J

 

[BigBish]

Pral m last thing in the day, with a good mist coat of water on it.

Hadn't thought of this. Garden sprayer at the ready for tomorrow!! Thanks mate great idea.

 

[owls]

I could. But getting in early (7am) leaving mine at 6. All beading and basecoating done. That's a lot of hanging around after my rub!
I usually wouldn't even contemplate it. I'm just dreading the wall being solid in the morning with daytime temps up to 10c

I guess I'll just play it by ear. And get in earlier if it's too hard as I like to I bar my work before finishing.

Thanks to all.

J

Are you spraying it on?

 

[owls]

Hadn't thought of this. Garden sprayer at the ready for tomorrow!! Thanks mate great idea.

Just gives it a bit more hanging time or even a mist coat on the base coat before you top it.

 

[Arti]

Enewall is ridulously slow but nice gear to use.

I've only started using it and I don't even know if it would same day scrap

 

[BigBish]

Are you spraying it on?

No mate. Hand applying 15mm over rendaid. Followed by edge and a spatch.

The G4 will come soon enough I hope as all the exercise is killing me haha

 

[owls]

I've only started using it and I don't even know if it would same day scrap

Why didn't you ask on here, a few have used it.

 

[owls]

No mate. Hand applying 15mm over rendaid. Followed by edge and a spatch.

The G4 will come soon enough I hope as all the exercise is killing me haha

Ah hand applying...all bets are off.its just working smart, out of the sun, wind, and having tarps etc to hand.

 

[JVplastering]

Pral m last thing in the day, with a good mist coat of water on it.

Wouldn’t spraying with water affect the colour?
Sounds a good idea to slow it down as we use to do this on lime renders, but on coloured render?

 

[owls]

Wouldn’t spraying with water affect the colour?
Sounds a good idea to slow it down as we use to do this on lime renders, but on coloured render?

Once it's skinned over no, it's not going to effect it.as long as you mist it lightly.

 

[JVplastering]

Sounds good I’ll have to try that

 

[BigBish]

Me too I'm going to try it tomorrow I'll let you know Thursday when I scrape it

 

[Rigsby]

Is it a heated building or unheated?

If it is unheated then you should get away with an over nighter.

If it is heated then on early with lots of Wickes in it.

 

[BigBish]

Was solid this morning. Getting it on early tomorrow with wicks rapid set. Long evening coming my way!