Patio

[stuart23]

Going to start digging founds for my patio, want it so when my bifold doors open it’s all on the same level going out into the garden. My question is will a single skin of concrete block be enough to hold the patio or is best lying them on there side for more strength?

 

[stuart23]

Also how deep will the founds need to be?

 

[stuart23]

Here’s a photo so it makes more sense, where the blue string is is where the end of patio wil be

 

[Stevieo]

View attachment 32262Here’s a photo so it makes more sense, where the blue string is is where the end of patio wil be

I've built conservatory bases (solid base) single skin, but probably not quite that high.

What do you plan to fill the base with?

 

[stuart23]

I've built conservatory bases (solid base) single skin, but probably not quite that high.

What do you plan to fill the base with?

Anything I’ve got handy, rubble, roughcast chips and that. Obviously once I get near the top I’ll need to use proper stuff.

 

[Vincey]

Decking would be better imo mate

 

[raggles]

Decking would be better imo mate

they do look canny but are a good hiding place for vermin !

 

[Stevieo]

Anything I’ve got handy, rubble, roughcast chips and that. Obviously once I get near the top I’ll need to use proper stuff.

Rubble will sit on itself best without wanting to spread. If you want belt and braces, use a bit of concrete round the edges. I'd probably lay my slabs on concrete with what I think you're building too.

 

[Rossi46]

The Strata thrown to one side like a wheelie bin

 

[Vincey]

The Strata thrown to one side like a wheelie bin

Omg well spotted mate

Wtf he doesn’t care anymore

 

[stuart23]

The Strata thrown to one side like a wheelie bin

Omg well spotted mate

Wtf he doesn’t care anymore

That’s an old one used for spares, the other one is under wraps

 

[stuart23]

Rubble will sit on itself best without wanting to spread. If you want belt and braces, use a bit of concrete round the edges. I'd probably lay my slabs on concrete with what I think you're building too.

Would you lay the blocks on there side for more strength?

 

[Smudger1]

Block on flat be best, measure down from sill, thickness of bedded slabs and blocks so bottom course of block is few inches below ground level then min 6" concrete down to bottom of footing.
Fill up hard core whacked tight in 6" layers and top with whacked type 1 hard core to dust. And slab away with 1.5" overhang on blocks.

 

[Danny]

Decking would be better imo mate

I hate decking.... slippery as hell and a breeding ground for rats

 

[lurpak]

@Andy g

 

[Vincey]

He could get a cat ?

 

[stuart23]

Block on flat be best, measure down from sill, thickness of bedded slabs and blocks so bottom course of block is few inches below ground level then min 6" concrete down to bottom of footing.
Fill up hard core whacked tight in 6" layers and top with whacked type 1 hard core to dust. And slab away with 1.5" overhang on blocks.

Going to try fill it with as much rubble and other stuff as I can then when get near the top go down the hardcore route with whacked plate. It’s going to be a big patio as it’s going in an L shape so trying to save as much cash as I can.

 

[stuart23]

He could get a cat ?

Fk that

 

[Stevieo]

Block on flat be best, measure down from sill, thickness of bedded slabs and blocks so bottom course of block is few inches below ground level then min 6" concrete down to bottom of footing.
Fill up hard core whacked tight in 6" layers and top with whacked type 1 hard core to dust. And slab away with 1.5" overhang on blocks.

He's not building a skyscraper.

Would you lay the blocks on there side for more strength?

No, not if you're filling with rubble and putting on a slab. Rubble won't put much pressure on the wall.

Like I say, cheapest solution would be to stay back a bit from the wall and infill concrete - be solid as fook.

Basically, chuck in a pile of rubble, fill the corners up with concrete, blind it off with hardcore, whack a slab on and tile it.

Bada bing.

 

[stuart23]

He's not building a skyscraper.


No, not if you're filling with rubble and putting on a slab. Rubble won't put much pressure on the wall.

Like I say, cheapest solution would be to stay back a bit from the wall and infill concrete - be solid as fook.

Basically, chuck in a pile of rubble, fill the corners up with concrete, blind it off with hardcore, whack a slab on and tile it.

Bada bing.

So pour concrete down every corner for strength?

 

[Stevieo]

So pour concrete down every corner for strength?

If you don't pack your rubble right up to the wall, fill the void with concrete - or least some/most of it. Be a lot easier than block flat. What's block flat...4x more block than regular laying? It's a fuckign lot of blocks.

 

[stuart23]

If you don't pack your rubble right up to the wall, fill the void with concrete - or least some/most of it. Be a lot easier than block flat. What's block flat...4x more block than regular laying? It's a fuckign lot of blocks.

Aye it’s a lot

 

[Vincey]

Decking is eco friendly and loads cheaper too

 

[Smudger1]

You want it strong block on flat will take the pressure better lot less fekin about than block on edge then putting concrete behind to thicken it up !

 

[stuart23]

Decking is eco friendly and loads cheaper too

Don’t like decking, had it in my last few houses and don’t want it in this one. Getting slabs similar in colour to the large tiles in my kitchen so that when the doors fully open it looks like one large area.

 

[stuart23]

Deckings for poofs

 

[MIXERMAN]

I'm gonna put fake grass on my decking in summer.

 

[Vincey]

Quality 2019 styles

 

[Danny]

View attachment 32270

Quality 2019 styles

Looks nice but in 5 years it will be like an ice rink

 

[essexandy]

@stuart23 @Smudger1 does this type of thing for a living and has given you good advice, @Stevieo cleans gutters. The choice is yours.

 

[John j]

Decking =death trap + matinience

 

[Stevieo]

@stuart23 @Smudger1 does this type of thing for a living and has given you good advice, @Stevieo cleans gutters. The choice is yours.

Stevieo has built plenty of patios and conservatory bases.. can't do them here because no cuntt is building anything. It was hard work even getting any renovation work.

 

[stuart23]

See where the patio meets the house, do I slab tight to the house or do I need to put some sort of drainage in to stop dampness in the future?

 

[Stevieo]

Tight. Run your patio away from the house on the edge of your bubble, same as you would a path.

 

[essexandy]

Tight. Run your patio away from the house on the edge of your bubble, same as you would a path.

@Smudger1 what do you think?