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carys

Well-Known Member
I still think you need to be qualified in what ever trade you do, qualified by means of a proper apprenticeship completed.
That trouble you can get proper apprenticeship that the trouble! Proper apprenticeship like use to be 20 30 years ago on site manual work. Example roofing aprentichip. Year on striping roof second year battening and marking roof out third year sorting and carrying slate on roof final year started slating and bit of lead welding. That was a proper way of learning a good trade!
 

John j

Mono Don
Yes to a certain point,
But people say why spreads are treated at the bottom of the pile etc, plumbers, joiners, sparks etc in the main all get qualified where as spreads mainly don't. I'm not saying it's a guarantee of quality, but it gives you a sound foundation to work from.
I.might get some nvq thingys
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
Yes to a certain point,
But people say why spreads are treated at the bottom of the pile etc, plumbers, joiners, sparks etc in the main all get qualified where as spreads mainly don't. I'm not saying it's a guarantee of quality, but it gives you a sound foundation to work from.
I like the idea of being qualified, my issue is with the fact that the qualifications are given out to those who don't deserve them. That's both people who have completed an apprenticeship and those that have paid for their NVQ.
 

superspread

Well-Known Member
Just stuff like this:

1.4 State why and when health and safety control equipment, identified by the principles of protection, should be used relating to types, purpose and limitations of each type, the work situation, occupational use, and the general work environment, in relation to:
  • collective protective measures
  • personal protective equipment (PPE)
  • respiratory protective equipment (RPE)
  • local exhaust ventilation (LEV).

Or this:


3.6 State the organisational policies and procedures for health, safety, and welfare, in relation to:
  • dealing with accidents and emergencies associated with the work and environment
  • methods of receiving or sourcing information
  • reporting
  • stopping work
  • evacuation
  • fire risks and safe exit procedures
  • consultation and feedback.
Just vile boring common sense questions that could be explained in a few words but you have to write paragraph after paragraph and there's LITERALLY HUNDREDS of them....
I’ve failed already :sorprendido3:
 

CeeVee

Well-Known Member
I like the idea of being qualified, my issue is with the fact that the qualifications are given out to those who don't deserve them. That's both people who have completed an apprenticeship and those that have paid for their NVQ.

Oh My God Reaction GIF
 

owls

Private Member
I like the idea of being qualified, my issue is with the fact that the qualifications are given out to those who don't deserve them. That's both people who have completed an apprenticeship and those that have paid for their NVQ.
Fair point.
Apprenticeships should be better funded. Problem aswell is youngsters don't want to get in the trade nowadays it's too dirty,hard graft etc leading to a real skill shortage down the line. I always saw an apprenticeship as a right of passage into the trade but I guess times are changing.
 

Vincey

Private Member
I got a guy just started I’m showing him everything I possibly can , from first day I told myself there will be no miserable old git days gotta keep it positive all time have a laugh at the same time

I’ve also worked with the op @CeeVee a few times and can vouch he’ll make a brilliant teacher I recon

every time he made a cup of tea at work it was proper tea Yorkshire tea with Yorkshire milk and Yorkshire biscuits
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
Fair point.
Apprenticeships should be better funded. Problem aswell is youngsters don't want to get in the trade nowadays it's too dirty,hard graft etc leading to a real skill shortage down the line. I always saw an apprenticeship as a right of passage into the trade but I guess times are changing.
I started in the trade forty years ago and not one of the decent spreads I mixed with on site had done an apprenticeship. Starting as a labourer, working hard and learning on the job was your right of passage into the trade.
IMHO the end (legally/largely) of self-employed labourers is the main cause of there being less youngsters coming into the industry.
 

Stewie03

Well-Known Member
I did my apprenticeship in 2000, 3 years worth of Shite if you ask me,got taught the basics as you do then the rest was health and safety manual handling b*ll***s obtained a cscs card,had to do written tests on the correct procedure on floating dabbing boarding and all that b*ll***s then you did a practical test on plastering,they was gunna fail me as I never did any fibrous work or coving so couldn't do a practical or even mock test on it lol I learnt more in 3 months working with 3 plasterers.thsn I did in 3 years doing that crap
 

Damian plasterer

Well-Known Member
I started in the trade forty years ago and not one of the decent spreads I mixed with on site had done an apprenticeship. Starting as a labourer, working hard and learning on the job was your right of passage into the trade.
IMHO the end (legally/largely) of self-employed labourers is the main cause of there being less youngsters coming into the industry.
Definitely well said
 

John j

Mono Don
I was skimming a plasterboard wall in Warren hill young persons prison in Suffolk. the boys were taking their cooking NVQ. at the end of the corse the chap in charge handed out the NVQs and asked me if I would like one as i had been there at the time of the exam!
Hope you took it. Gets you a job at KFC that
 

malc

TPF Special Forces
I bet your porridge making skills are fantastic mate.

Every thing is a feckup and usually a good laugh.
one day the boys where going to learn fire fighting skills. there was an old wooden bungalow in the grounds of the prison where delivery drivers could use to rest and eat their lunch.
the officer in charge set the building on fire. he said to the boys "go and get the fire engine out of the prison garage"
the fire engine had a flat battery and would not start. the dinner bell rang at that moment so everyone said feck it and left the building to burn down!
 
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