Need advice from acrylic render specialist please.....

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Hello gang,

I need a kick in the right direction concerning acrylic render process -

I'm an experienced NVQ qual. spread familiar with all aspects of traditional solid, plus some fibrous plastering.

Never done any acrylic rendering although it doesn't look too difficult (famous last words)

I have landed a nice little earner to re-do a load of internal work and unfinished external work left by a shoddy Polish gang who had a big fall out and went back to Poland without finishing the job.

The external work required is just to;

1 form a couple of reaveals that are still polystyrene,
2 Apply different accent colour in some other prepped but unfinished reveals
3 Acrylic render the the front and side of a large double garage including deep entrance reveals

I can see that the process they have used is;

1 Glue the polystyrene insulation boards into place,
2 Then glued on a large scrim type mesh
3 Applied some kind of plain backing coat acrylic render
4 Applied a top-coat coloured acrylic render with quartz crystal like finish
5 Applied a further accent colour of blue quartz around the windows and inside the reveals (on the customer’s request as this matches the original painted colour scheme of the bungalow. I believe they just masked off the area with masking tape to achieve this.

Now obviously I am being a bit of a chancer here taking this on but I’m an experienced and skilled trowel hand and applying muck and leaving it flat and nicely finished is what I do all year long and I’m thinking this is a nice easy introduction to acrylic render.

The products and materials are all polish (Bolix Render) and they are already on site.

What I want help with specifically, is:

1 Could someone give me the approximate setting times of each of the process stages above?
2 Have I stated them correctly and the right order?
3 Are there any stages missing?

I guess not many people have used the Polish product Bolix but lets assume it’s going to be similar in nature to the British equivalents. (Bolix is coming to GB under the new name of Solix soon apparently, via an office in Ireland. (Cant think why they would want to change the name)

Sorry for such a tediously long post. Thanks for reading this far !

I’ve not been able to find another post which gives me this information, nor another website so any help, or links to another web page would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
SPREDZ
 
Ok mate i'll kick it off
Acrylics are pretty easy, it's not rocket science
1. Yes fix with the addy supplied ( and fixing plugs if required ,mechanical fixing) with the system making sure you back wrap the insulation if no starter profiles or stop profiles are to be used and at any expansion joints.
2. a lot of systems allow you to bed the reinforcing alkaline resistant mesh into the fixing addy, but check cos some systems have a separate mesh carrier, this should be applied to about 4-5 mill thick with the mesh bedded into the top third of the addy,make sure you overlap mesh joint by at least 100mm, and fix stress patches to all openings top and bottom, it's best if you fix stop beads where the render meets the window/door frames etc , make sure your mesh cover every peice of the fixed insulation and that it runs right up to the bead harris , but is not exposed at any point, i then spat it as flat as i can , no bumps or lumps sticking out etc, some people sponge or just run a soft brush over it
3 Most systems reqyuire a primer once the addy has dried (usually 1 day per mill)
4 apply your top coat , you might want to add a cup of water to your material , i know most people do, and give a good mix, spread it on as tight as you can then as it starts to pick up , rub it up with a plastic float , just watch for any joints always keep a wet edge
5 systems i have used do not bleed into each other so working up to edges in contrasting colour is not usually a prob if your carefull , or wait till dry mask and then apply contrast

Basically it is paint technology , but you are applying it with a trowel (unless you spraying it on )

Now i hope this post is not total bolix ::)
 
Top man Warrior that is a Bolix free quality kick in the right direction

Can i bore you with a couple more questions.....

Your point 4 below - what's the typical working time between applying the top coat and it picking up ready for a float? Assume being done in october if the weather/temp/humidity affects it.

The polaks have applied the finish coat to what appears to be existing traditional painted render around the garage area. Purely to give this building the same decoarative effect as the main house, not for insulative properties i spose. Can't see evidence of them having applied it over the mesh. Are you familiar with this method of working?

thanks again mucker,

SPREDZ
 
well said warrior can i just add you must add water just a cup mind otherwise you will get a swirl effect and dont wait around once its on rub it up with a plastic float strait away sto i found are the best floats when texturing its best working in pairs one applying the texture the other coming behind rubbing up.pm me if you need anymore help
 
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