Labourer or plasterer?

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Bagrat

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Hi lads been on a job for weeks now big extension etc.been getting put in a corner by builder for a price.my question is if it takes 4 weeks with 2 plasterers how long would it take a one and one gang bear it mind the labourer will be getting exactly half as much as myself.my argument is it will take longer and cost more!confused my head is wrecked on this one!many thanks nick
 

spunky

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Sometimes when you get 2 plasterers on a job it looks more but when you work it out per man it's not, what's he arguing the toss about don't really get it?
 

Curry

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just give him a price mate, ifit will take 2 plasterers 4 weeks charge him that. then if it takes longer coz there is only one plasterer and a labouerer you covered.

simple really or am i missing something?
 

bubbles65

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Hi lads been on a job for weeks now big extension etc.been getting put in a corner by builder for a price.my question is if it takes 4 weeks with 2 plasterers how long would it take a one and one gang bear it mind the labourer will be getting exactly half as much as myself.my argument is it will take longer and cost more!confused my head is wrecked on this one!many thanks nick

Sounds like the builder thinks you're taking too long, so he wants a final figure, which is fair enough I reckon. Only YOU know what it will cost for a 1 + 1 mate :RpS_thumbup:
 

Bagrat

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Gave him my price he knocked me down by 600 .they are all the same but I've got to do the job as theres plenty more if I keep him sweet !
 

essexandy

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Sounds like the builder thinks you're taking too long, so he wants a final figure, which is fair enough I reckon. Only YOU know what it will cost for a 1 + 1 mate :RpS_thumbup:

I was thinking the same but I'm just to nice to have said it.
 

bodplasterer

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There all the same we get carrots dangled all the time plus we also add on for the knock down as they all do it and probably put a price in twice as much.
 

Nisus

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I looked at a big pub refurb couple of months ago. He said he's doing it in 4 sections. He had had one section of the pub already done & said they'd messed him about! So he wanted me to price for the second section, & he kept saying oh I'm on a budget, do me a good price & you can have the other 2 sections of the job blah blah bull5hit!! Gave him a quote & I didn't knock a penny off, didn't get the job. But you can bet if I'd have gave him a lower quote he'd have fcuked me off after doing that section then got someone else! Tossers :RpS_biggrin:
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
You're the second nicest bloke on the forum Andy :RpS_thumbup:

That really don't say a lot for the rest of them, although I've got to agree:RpS_unsure:
It's also nice for Spunky to know you think he's the nicest:RpS_lol::RpS_lol::RpS_scared:
 

beddy

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Why is your lab getting half your money?! Either your paying someone too much for mixing and sweeping or your not earning enough
 

bubbles65

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*ahem*

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beddy

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Yeah I know what he said. So if he's on 140 his labs on 70. 70quid to sweep up and mix?! If that were me he'd wanna be beading, taping and possibly. trowelling up small bits for 70quid.
 

Bagrat

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I've worked for this builder for 6 years he was paying me a day rate .then not through lack of speed but I pulled of cos i was busy .but just as am due back oh we need a price and got other gangs to price it .hence knocking 600 of the price it's all down to money but he's pulled that stunt b4 .when he confirmed the job was mine he's words I'll give you more work also the labourer is working for him anyway !sounds like he just wanted to take him of hi hands
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
How can you work on a price with a labourer that works for him, ultimately you've no control over the lab.
Give him a price excluding his lab and just say you'll get your own, it's not the other gang are going to use his lab are they? You can then either sort out your own cheaper or more productive labour or as I did when I started out, just work bloody hard without a lab at all. Think of the benefits no one to turn up late, pissed or drugged up, muck always just how you want it and all the money in your bin. Happy days.
 

nickelarse

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i priced one the other day. re tack sound boards on lids, load of chases etc to bond out, some if the lids curved into the walls with fireplaces etc. then reskim the whole place. anyway, gave him the price, hes goes blimey, didnt think itd be that much. i said oh right, how much were u thinking, he said a price that was a 3rd of what i quoted. bearing in mind the materials were 3 quarters of what he wanted to pay, we would have had to tack the lids and skim the whole flat in a day to make daywork lol
 

bodplasterer

Active Member
How can you work on a price with a labourer that works for him, ultimately you've no control over the lab.
Give him a price excluding his lab and just say you'll get your own, it's not the other gang are going to use his lab are they? You can then either sort out your own cheaper or more productive labour or as I did when I started out, just work bloody hard without a lab at all. Think of the benefits no one to turn up late, pissed or drugged up, muck always just how you want it and all the money in your bin. Happy days.

Yeah i have worked for builders that say you can use our labourer and when it came down to it they put em on something else, so we dont bother if they offer now.
 
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