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Mono

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lads I've put tons of parex throuhg my G5,I've got a small extension to do and the existing house is Krend buttermilk.Does the k1 go through ok?Cheers
 

PFTwales

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lads I've put tons of parex throuhg my G5,I've got a small extension to do and the existing house is Krend buttermilk.Does the k1 go through ok?Cheers
i would use a D6-3 soft, d4-2 clampable or d6-3 clampable. I find any coloured K rend needs a softer rotor and stator for trouble free spraying.
 

HLR External Renders

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Had a nightmare spraying this yesterday cap kept blowing of as dry mix kept blocking the gun up and sprayed like piss new d-63 on there do you think this could be down to r+s ?? Machine kept stopping and had to shout down to lad to keep manually pressing on button to get going any one ever had this, first time using Krend products through machine we always use parex and Webber with no probs
 

Dgplastering

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We tried k1 spray last week on ritmo and it clogged up so we scrapped the hopper out and cleaned the r+s to find some dry gear (school boy error) did the same again to find it was wet then dry and kept stopping the mixing shaft like stutter/pause so cleaned it out and no dry powder???? Brand new r+s only done 80m2 is K-rend gone s**t???
 

HLR External Renders

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I was doing a man and machine hire at he time to embarrassed to say the least ended up filling up gorilla tins of wet gear and they span a drill through it and topped it up with powder they finished laying on by hand I was using a 3 phase
 

PFTwales

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OK this sounds like the rotor and stator was not suitable.

I have seen this regularly on g4 and ritmo . Coloured k rend does not seem to mix easily like other products.

The solution recommended by us is simply a d6-3 soft stator for the 3 phase machines or a clampable stator on the ritmo.

The standard d6-3 is just too tight for the k rend which makes the machine struggle everytime it starts up.

PFT have developed the soft maintenance free stator for difficult materials like K rend. You will get 20 plus tons out of the D6-3 soft if used correctly with no need to alter anything you allready have.
 

PFTwales

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We tried k1 spray last week on ritmo and it clogged up so we scrapped the hopper out and cleaned the r+s to find some dry gear (school boy error) did the same again to find it was wet then dry and kept stopping the mixing shaft like stutter/pause so cleaned it out and no dry powder???? Brand new r+s only done 80m2 is K-rend gone s**t???

did you use a clampable stator
 

HLR External Renders

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OK this sounds like the rotor and stator was not suitable.

I have seen this regularly on g4 and ritmo . Coloured k rend does not seem to mix easily like other products.

The solution recommended by us is simply a d6-3 soft stator for the 3 phase machines or a clampable stator on the ritmo.

The standard d6-3 is just too tight for the k rend which makes the machine struggle everytime it starts up.

PFT have developed the soft maintenance free stator for difficult materials like K rend. You will get 20 plus tons out of the D6-3 soft if used correctly with no need to alter anything you allready have.
How much butt ??
 

Plasterers1StopShop

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Had a nightmare spraying this yesterday cap kept blowing of as dry mix kept blocking the gun up and sprayed like piss new d-63 on there do you think this could be down to r+s ?? Machine kept stopping and had to shout down to lad to keep manually pressing on button to get going any one ever had this, first time using Krend products through machine we always use parex and Webber with no probs

Was it K1 spray or Silicone?

You will be fine using a D6,3 we also have the Kachele D,6-3 with a slightly softer rubber if you think that will help. Personally, I don't think a softer rubber is 100% necessary as we have a number of guys using standard versions with success.

K-rend has notoriously been hard to use with these type of machines for a number of years. This is where the mixing technology of the M-tec range comes into its own.
 

Dgplastering

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@pft Wales I'm looking for a set up for spraying thin coat textures need compressor and gun is the gentilin compressor any good for the money???
 

PFTwales

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@pft Wales I'm looking for a set up for spraying thin coat textures need compressor and gun is the gentilin compressor any good for the money???
i always recommend a clampable stator for any coloured k rend. we will soon have the b4 2 L soft maintenance free
 

PFTwales

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the gentillin compressor is decent for the money. it wont get heavy use but its powerful enough for spraying topcoats.
the jetset spray gun is an ideal set up
 

PFTwales

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Was it K1 spray or Silicone?

You will be fine using a D6,3 we also have the Kachele D,6-3 with a slightly softer rubber if you think that will help. Personally, I don't think a softer rubber is 100% necessary as we have a number of guys using standard versions with success.

K-rend has notoriously been hard to use with these type of machines for a number of years. This is where the mixing technology of the M-tec range comes into its own.

he has allready stated he had a fail trying to use a d6 3. he even states he was spraying very wet and it was a brand new rotor and stator .
also states never had a problem before and first time with k rend.
 

Plasterers1StopShop

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he has allready stated he had a fail trying to use a d6 3. he even states he was spraying very wet and it was a brand new rotor and stator .
also states never had a problem before and first time with k rend.

Yes he states it's his first time using it, it could also be down to the consistency set, there could also be other varying factors which need to be esthablished before a customer has to 'purchase' a new part to see if that solves it.

Simply advising to buy a new part isn't always the solution. People have done it for years without the new soft R/S....
 

Plasterers1StopShop

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As this was the first time we have heard of Ash having an issue with this material, I would suggest it would be unfair to say he has 'fallen off the wagon'. Also, we train everyone who purchases a machine from us - that is standard practice.

We don't know the water setting or the bar pressure he was attempting to run the material at, we also don't know if it was K1 Spray or silicone being used. There are people having a lot of issues with K1 silicone even with diesel machines, the issue being it blocking in the pipes or even an inconsistency within the mix, reasons for this are due to the water setting and consistency they are trying to use the material at being incorrect, it is different to other materials.

As stated previously it could simply be something to do with the consistency that has been set and there could also be varying factors such as the condition of the mixing shaft. A thread could go on for hours trying to establish the issue whereas a quick phone call (as you well know) can sort the issue out pretty quickly or can eliminate causes.

We find its better to try and solve these issues directly and knowing the full facts, without insisting on purchasing a new part which may not be necessary. Once they spend £100.00 on a new product and it doesn't solve the issue you could have an unhappy customer - something we don't want.
 
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