Hi Jamie here - new to the forum, In need of serious help with rendering dilemma (1880's solid brick wall)

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First of all i'll introduce myself - James from Leeds...i'm not a plasterer of any kind but i've just bought my first home - a lovely 1880's end terrace in Leeds. Its turned into a bigger job then first expected to do it up ready for living in! Anyway to the point...The gable end wall (solid brick) was smothered in a sand & cement render that had cracked/blown causing some damage on internal walls. Its been removed now and i'm eager to get it rendered in the correct stuff before winter.
I've done a fair bit of research and i know the importance of letting old houses breath. I'm tempted to use the Bauwer light insulated system but the quote for materials and the long winded process of application is getting too much. The area in question is around 45 m2. I have a friend who is a decent plasterer and has done rendering (although he does'nt do exterior rendering daily). He's never used this stuff before but seems happy to give it a go with his friend (also a plasterer).
I understand the process for the bauwer system to be 4 stages - basecoat (splatterdash 80%) then 40mm of Bauwer light (left to dry for 5 days), then Bauwer finish, - then a monocouche weather resistant coat called monocrome.
Seems like its gonna be a lot of work which of course will cost money....and the quote for materials alone is creeping close to 2k. So i'd be much appreciative of any advice i can get as to other alternatives that will keep costs/ amount of work down. It needs to be breathable. No or very little cement. Insulation is great of course but i'm wondering weather its actually worth it for me as its only the one gable wall that will be rendered...will i really save that much money of my heating bills? A one coat breathable render i guess would be good - although wouldnt have the benefit of insulation. Is something like K- lime really a one coat application or does it need a finishing/protecting coat on top? Any detailed answers very much appreciated ! Thanks :)
 

Vincey

Private Member
#2
Tbh I have a few Bauwer jobs atm Can I ask is the splatterdash coat vimark rinsaffo? What thickness is the Bauwer light ? And are you sure about the monochrome? I think you have that mixed up as a spec

Tbf for heat retention and value for money I don’t think there is better out there for your money but labour wise it’s gonna cost you there’s no getting out of that
 
#3
Tbh I have a few Bauwer jobs atm Can I ask is the splatterdash coat vimark rinsaffo? What thickness is the Bauwer light ? And are you sure about the monochrome? I think you have that mixed up as a spec

Tbf for heat retention and value for money I don’t think there is better out there for your money but labour wise it’s gonna cost you there’s no getting out of that
Yes first coat rinsaffo, then Bauwer light at 40 mm, after that Bauwer finish, then lastly Vimark monochrome. Alexander from Bauwer quoted me so it surely must be correct.
 

vfr12

Well-Known Member
#4
Yes first coat rinsaffo, then Bauwer light at 40 mm, after that Bauwer finish, then lastly Vimark monochrome. Alexander from Bauwer quoted me so it surely must be correct.
Yep, that’s correct. If you can keep materials up to 2k that will be great. Bauwer is probably the best if done right and you can afford it.
 
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The other option I'm toying with to cut costs is just a breathable system from bauwer without the actual insulation. So it would be the scratch coat followed by the monocrome protection finish. (Would also use the monocrome on the inside to keep it breathable. I know it's of course better to insulate but this is just one wall..the other walls are not getting rendered and have no insulation/are solid walls. Think this could save 1 to 1.5k and a lot of headache. Yes if lose some money in heating costs but I'm not sure it warrants the extra spend as I'll probably only live it the house 5 to 10 years maybe. Thoughts??
 
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First of all i'll introduce myself - James from Leeds...i'm not a plasterer of any kind but i've just bought my first home - a lovely 1880's end terrace in Leeds. Its turned into a bigger job then first expected to do it up ready for living in! Anyway to the point...The gable end wall (solid brick) was smothered in a sand & cement render that had cracked/blown causing some damage on internal walls. Its been removed now and i'm eager to get it rendered in the correct stuff before winter.
I've done a fair bit of research and i know the importance of letting old houses breath. I'm tempted to use the Bauwer light insulated system but the quote for materials and the long winded process of application is getting too much. The area in question is around 45 m2. I have a friend who is a decent plasterer and has done rendering (although he does'nt do exterior rendering daily). He's never used this stuff before but seems happy to give it a go with his friend (also a plasterer).
I understand the process for the bauwer system to be 4 stages - basecoat (splatterdash 80%) then 40mm of Bauwer light (left to dry for 5 days), then Bauwer finish, - then a monocouche weather resistant coat called monocrome.
Seems like its gonna be a lot of work which of course will cost money....and the quote for materials alone is creeping close to 2k. So i'd be much appreciative of any advice i can get as to other alternatives that will keep costs/ amount of work down. It needs to be breathable. No or very little cement. Insulation is great of course but i'm wondering weather its actually worth it for me as its only the one gable wall that will be rendered...will i really save that much money of my heating bills? A one coat breathable render i guess would be good - although wouldnt have the benefit of insulation. Is something like K- lime really a one coat application or does it need a finishing/protecting coat on top? Any detailed answers very much appreciated ! Thanks :)
Insulation render is expensive but u can get cheap insulation boards but the spec on them ain’t as good as the more expensive , tell your mate to dot and dab them on and get as level as he can , lay them long ways and staggered joints , once dabbing has set he will need an sds drill and drill each corner of board and one in the middle , he can use special plugs that u just hit in with an hammer or wall plug , screw and washer, the finish is upto u to be fair, if u want cheap just do stonedash
 

Vincey

Private Member
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Thought this was internal job on one wall sorry got wires crossed

So monochrome ok over Bauwer light ?