first machine

[plasterjfe]

I know lads with machines but i think i would like one. me an another lad are thinking of going halves on a second hander. but what would be the best for machine us? for rendering

 

[Swp]

An m.tec m300

 

[goody]

go to les lord mate, machine plastering is fraught with unexpected problems which lead to days on end of nothing on the wall. buy a second hand machine/genny package and get the training along with it. believe me you need all the help you can get in this game.

 

[southernmonkey]

with les you will get all the training you need mate either the G5 G4 or the monojet for rendering mate

 

[merlin]

believe me mate you will need training and back up, its no fun without it :-\

 

[Swp]

G4 and a g5 ok but you want a machine that will spray just about anything m300 is the one and with the mtec the spraying distance is a lot further ant so much cleaner

 

[richardbrown]

G4 and a g5 ok but you want a machine that will spray just about anything m300 is the one and with the mtec the spraying distance is a lot further ant so much cleaner

thats gonna cause some friction here mate lol

 

[merlin]

wot can the m300 spray that the g4/5 cant mate?

 

[Swp]

It will spray krend better Kmix it a much more advanced machine

 

[merlin]

my g5 sprays e grade lovely, ;D

 

[simplybesty]

swp, you sound like you know the mtech, where would i get demo of one

 

[Swp]

removed due to advertising

 

[southernmonkey]

i use to have an M300 mate and to be honest its no different , my G4 matches the performance of an M300 all day long , ive had a G5 a G4 and an M300 , and the G4 is my favorite

 

[southernmonkey]

not disputing that the M300 isnt a good machine as it is , but the mix quality is no different then any other machine

 

[Swp]

Yeah the mix quality is the same but with the m300 you get 5 times more out of your rotor and stator the pumping distance is far more than any g4 or g5, I used to have a g4 I changed it for a m300, g4 is a good first machine

 

[southernmonkey]

they'll pump the same distance mate but in all the years of using machines only once have i needed to pump further then 25m's, but you do get more out of the m-tec R&S , i wouldnt say 5 times more though

 

[Swp]

Pumping distance on the m300 is 50 metres how many
pallets can u put through a g5 on 1 R&S

 

[southernmonkey]

you can go 50m on a G4/5

depends on what material your spraying , if it's e-grade about 800 bags

 

[Swp]

If you go more then 25m on g4/g5 it will back fill on egrade I get 18 pallets

 

[southernmonkey]

if it's back filling then your running the material to stiff , and you should never need to spray further then 25m

 

[goody]

wish they'd put the same hopper motor as on the duo mix so it doesn't stick out like on the m300. things are meant to get better designed and lighter/compact not bigger with new technology apart from golfs lol

 

[Swp]

It's not what it looks like it's how it performs

 

[McPlaster]

I've had 35m of 25mm hose and sprayed e grade 15m vertical, 20m horizontal with a G4 no problems.

 

[Swp]

When you go more then 10/15m you Need to go to a 35mm hose

 

[pwi]

My first machine is an m-tech 300 monkeys old one they are great but I find getting the c**t round site is a pain in the arss

 

[Swp]

But that's the good with the distance you pump up to you can leave it in one place

 

[southernmonkey]

you can pump 25m on 25mm hoses then you need to upgrade to 35mm ....it isnt a good selling point that really is it that if you spend another £500 on hoses you dont need to move the machine ,

More hoses means more back pressure more back pressure means harder wear on the rotor and stators wearing them out quicker , and that goes for all machines mate

 

[Swp]

I allways run it on a 30m at 15bar and the R&S lasts just as long

 

[pwi]

So is it true what they say about the 300 being one of the best up to date machines out there or is the pft everybit as good

 

[Swp]

I have had a g4 and I would say the 300 is a lot better and more up to date

 

[southernmonkey]

what material are you spraying at 15 bar, The M300 is a good machine there's no doubt about it but i bet you i could clean my G4 out a lot quicker then your M300, apart from maybe getting more life from you R&S either machine is just as good as each other and if you want more meterage from the R&S then put a clamp on there

 

[Swp]

Krend the 300is much easyier to clean

 

[southernmonkey]

We've all got our own opinions mate in my opinion after owning a G4/5 and an M300 I know what Machine I'd rather use

 

[spunky]

and there it endeth ;D...............takes me 4 hours to clean the floor and my hawk and trowel after 2 bags of hardwall :-[

 

[richardbrown]

I was nearly pushed into buying an m tec from a right t.wat he was handing out m-tec leaflets and pushing them like they were the best thing since sliced bread.
In the end I bought a pft machine and glad I did as the bloke selling the m-tec's came across as a right usless d.ick