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Like the timber behind moved. Something like that. Old s**t timbers. Not the actual plasterboard itself. But what's behind it.
 
theclemo said:
Like the timber behind moved. Something like that. Old s**t timbers. Not the actual plasterboard itself. But what's behind it.
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maybe if someones fitted a room in the loft above your ceilings ....then the joiner would of moved the timbers clemo...as the floor above would have been tampered with.
 
I know of a guy where board fell after plastering. Extension put up in a hurry and I don't think the joists were sturdy (they weren't long enough to span the distance so joined in middle but not properly supported)

He was getting rushed and I'm pretty sure it was the project manager bloke who boarded it with not enough screws.

Total f**k up really when you think about it :ROFLMAO:
 
The real answer is no, not if they knew how to find a joist
 
JessThePlasterer said:
I don't think the joists were sturdy (they weren't long enough to span the distance so joined in middle but not properly supported :ROFLMAO:
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Unlikely.

Put it this way.... I did the plastering at a mate's house when she was having some renovation done.

I was very suspicious of the 'builder' because he struck me as a bodger. (with good reason, it later turned out. He had bodged the roof and all our work fell to bits a little later - but that's a story for another day)

He joined the joists and I was able to swing on them no problem at all with fairly minimal fixings..

Using 4x2 over large runs might cause a bow if not supported in the centre on a long run, but I can't see it failing to the point that the boards would come down.

More likely someone had tacked a few boards up for some reason, the project manager missed it and somehow it got skimmed over. Or maybe damp boards.

If it happened at all.
 
Stevieo said:
Unlikely.

Put it this way.... I did the plastering at a mate's house when she was having some renovation done.

I was very suspicious of the 'builder' because he struck me as a bodger. (with good reason, it later turned out. He had bodged the roof and all our work fell to bits a little later - but that's a story for another day)

He joined the joists and I was able to swing on them no problem at all with fairly minimal fixings..

Using 4x2 over large runs might cause a bow if not supported in the centre on a long run, but I can't see it failing to the point that the boards would come down.

More likely someone had tacked a few boards up for some reason, the project manager missed it and somehow it got skimmed over. Or maybe damp boards.

If it happened at all.
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Yeah maybe. Meh

What do you mean if it happened at all?
 
JessThePlasterer said:
Yeah maybe. Meh

What do you mean if it happened at all?
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Just that you're only working on what someone said and you didn't see it yourself..

'Know of' ....no real way to know if it really happened or if it was exaggerated or what.


I'm suspicious of 'know of'. When I was a dashing young Blade, first posted to Germany to defend the realm from the Soviet Horde and impose the Queen's will on the world, I heard the old hands talk of a man that they 'knew of' who'd stolen a Stalwart amphibious vehicle just a couple of years before I got there - one generation of young soldiers ago, if you like. He went AWOL in it and drove it to Calais where he met some heroic failure. The exact nature of the failure varied from storyteller to storyteller, but they all definitely knew of this guy.


Now we have the internet, it turns out that every regiment knew of this guy. He was in every regiment four years before the storyteller got there, from 1970 - 1990.

The story was actually true, but I don't go much on 'Know of' now I know how storytelling works.

I guess this is *sort* of history - I am looking into British Army funny stories or 'urban legends'...

In particular I am trying to find our who knows the real story about a tale I was told by my brother who served in a Royal Signals Recce unit during the Cold War...

He told me a hilarious story about a squaddie serving in Germany who was a fanatical footy fan. His team (I think it was Liverpool) was to play in the FA Cup final, and he asked for leave to return home to see the match - which was refused.

Not to be daunted, the innovative soldier STOLE a Stalwart amphibious cargo lorry and DROVE all the way from Germany to the English Channel, and then started to sail across the channel in his 'Stolly'!

Unfortunately, the Stolly ran out of fuel half way across and the poor footy fan and his vehicle had to be towed the rest of the way by a passing passenger ferry!

MPs were waiting for him in Dover!

However, the punch line is - when the poor guy was arrested, his escort rubbed salt in the wound when they told him that he actually had enough gas in his RESERVE TANK and all he needed to do was to flick over to that tank and he would have made it!


If anyone could verify this story - and maybe add any additional funny military urban legends I would be most grateful.

Thanks all.
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This is a true story i did in fact know the aforesaid driver whose nickname surprisingly enough was "Stollie" - he was a bit of a legend in Bunde for obvious reasons. He was from 2 ADTR and the signals guy who told you the story must have been from 2 ADSR - both units were co-located in Birdwood Bks in Bunde.
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Further to this, I believe it was a type of amphibious vehicle holding a BOWSER
containing the same type of fuel as said vehicle ran on
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In 69 I served in 8 Flt AAC.
One of the troopers on the flight was a Cavalry guy name of Bob P. I could provide his last name if required.
Not too many secrets on a small unit and Bob had come from either the Shiny Tenth or the Cherrypickers. After all these years I cannot remember which but 10 Hussars, The regt that invented Bull sh1t, is my best guess.
It was no secret that Bob was just out of Colly and soon it was known that Bob was the guy who had driven the Stolly 'Halfway' across the channel.
During our Spearhead deployment to Bellykelly in late 69, Bob and I ended up in a small bar in Limavady and naturally as the Guinness flowed I asked Bob for the true story on his time in Colly.
He had taken a Stolly drove across BAOR, from Honhe, I think and got part way across the Channel. The water was too rough and he turned round and landed back in France where the Gendarmes where waiting.
Before CO's he was told that if he had got all the way across the desertion and theft of transport/fuel would have been put down to a publicity stunt.
Bob was in no way Bitter and spoke well of his time inside.
john
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The stolly is the subject of 2 legendary tales involving soldiers from the old BAOR:

  • Lance Corporal Andy Bray, formerly of the RCT stole one and then drove it across the low countries before eventually being halted by a volley of Belgium police fire. Full details here.

Etc.

There's truth in there somewhere.
 
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JessThePlasterer said:
I know of a guy where board fell after plastering. Extension put up in a hurry and I don't think the joists were sturdy (they weren't long enough to span the distance so joined in middle but not properly supported)

He was getting rushed and I'm pretty sure it was the project manager bloke who boarded it with not enough screws.

Total f**k up really when you think about it :ROFLMAO:
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That's why god gave us eyes
 
A friend of mine rang me to tell me the newly plastered landing ceiling was cracking everywhere. I get down there sharp and what the f**k. They only got some guy in who said he did loft conversions to put a loft hatch in. The Muppet had cut through all the joists. Then put up the 10 mm ply frame for the hatch and screwed through the side of it into the joist ends. Would love to see his loft conversions

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NO BUT, I see a lot of bedroom ceilings where the roof is Queen trusses with either purlins or branders fitted. These are generally the ones where you will see the movement your on about @theclemo. Did one 2 weeks ago where I had to jack all the branders back up with an acro before I could level the timers of a new lowered ceiling.
 
Lodan said:
The real answer is no, not if they knew how to find a joist
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So u are saying on a overboard it's 100% fail proof. All u need is get screws in to the joists. Even tho u can't see what condition the timbers are. Or anything has happened over the years. So how is the real answer no. That don't add up. It's a better job to take the original boards down. And u then can see what's really going on especially in older buildings. And to say the answer is no that an overboard can't fail is a lack of experience. Any system can fail.
 
Shadow said:
A friend of mine rang me to tell me the newly plastered landing ceiling was cracking everywhere. I get down there sharp and what the f**k. They only got some guy in who said he did loft conversions to put a loft hatch in. The Muppet had cut through all the joists. Then put up the 10 mm ply frame for the hatch and screwed through the side of it into the joist ends. Would love to see his loft conversions

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This is what I mean. U don't know who did the original work are what is under a overboard. U are taking a chance. Could be a cowboy job that just hold up for 20 years or more. Then we come in put 25kg board's and 25kg skim on it. A lot of weight. Iv did plenty of overboard jobs myself no problem. But had someone try tell me it can't fail lol
 
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Many moons ago a man asked to plaster an old Methodist church he was changing into a photographic studio. He wanted huge curved internal corners, and again at the junction of the wall/ceiling......we agreed this should be metal lath and that the flat ceiling should be boards.........to keep costs down he and his mate would tack everything, so I began to tell him how to do it..........he told me on no uncertain terms that a Cambridge educated graduate was "more than capable of a little tacking thank you".........
A day or two later I got the call.......went round......had a look....told him he should have "used more nails"..... he poo-pooed this advice and told me to get started......I did.........cut a long story short.....coz of the bonding etc the weight was a tad too much for the ickle tiddly nails he had used,.......it lasted about two days........and then all the boards (more than a dozen if memory serves)... came down at once!!
His subsequent phone call to me made no mention of his previous education, but that lesson was well learnt......
We put it all right awhile later when he had a bit more dosh about him......oh how we laughed....:D​
 
Dropsalot said:
Many moons ago a man asked to plaster an old Methodist church he was changing into a photographic studio. He wanted huge curved internal corners, and again at the junction of the wall/ceiling......we agreed this should be metal lath and that the flat ceiling should be boards.........to keep costs down he and his mate would tack everything, so I began to tell him how to do it..........he told me on no uncertain terms that a Cambridge educated graduate was "more than capable of a little tacking thank you".........
A day or two later I got the call.......went round......had a look....told him he should have "used more nails"..... he poo-pooed this advice and told me to get started......I did.........cut a long story short.....coz of the bonding etc the weight was a tad too much for the ickle tiddly nails he had used,.......it lasted about two days........and then all the boards (more than a dozen if memory serves)... came down at once!!
His subsequent phone call to me made no mention of his previous education, but that lesson was well learnt......
We put it all right awhile later when he had a bit more dosh about him......oh how we laughed....:D​
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And the moral of the story is - photographers are wankers. Every man-jack of them. Especially amateurs. And even more especially 'semi professional' photographers.

I hate photographers.
 
Stevieo said:
And the moral of the story is - photographers are wankers. Every man-jack of them. Especially amateurs. And even more especially 'semi professional' photographers.

I hate photographers.
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That can go in the other thread then[emoji106]
 
theclemo said:
So u are saying on a overboard it's 100% fail proof. All u need is get screws in to the joists. Even tho u can't see what condition the timbers are. Or anything has happened over the years. So how is the real answer no. That don't add up. It's a better job to take the original boards down. And u then can see what's really going on especially in older buildings. And to say the answer is no that an overboard can't fail is a lack of experience. Any system can fail.
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You can feel the timbers though. You know if you're getting a fix or not.
 
Had it and seen it happen a few times - overboarding onto a lath & plaster lid, you don't always know if you've hit the joists or laths.
I was skimming a ceiling for a chippy, he had fixed the pb with his brad nailer...I had a bad feeling about that and expressed my concern, 'get on with it' he said, then he left. Once I had layed on the second coat it started to get very 'bouncy', first pass and it went tits-up, the boards started to pop off the nails - I ran to the van for screws etc to try and re fix. I was screaming 'YOU FUKCING CNUTING WANKNIG CNUTING PRIKC I'll FUKCING HAVE YOU'. A while later the nice old dear next door rang the bell and said 'Is everything okay luvvy, we thought someone was being murdered in there'
 
Stevieo said:
You can feel the timbers though. You know if you're getting a fix or not.
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U can for sure. But can't see what your really going on to tho. Best to take down the original boards and see what is really there. But none of us really do it as most people won't pay for that.
 
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