building contractors

[malc]

talking to a young chap today who had just won a contract from a major contractor, [ not plastering] and he was told that he would have to pay 6% of the contract to the contractor, up front, to prove that he was financially viable. when asked if that would be ok he answered, no problem because he needed 25%, upfront, to prove that the contractor was viable.
the word is that the contractor is pricing 5% below costs, so they must have the subbie over to make any profit.

 

[warriorupnorth]

sounds about right , good on the subbie for givin it back

 

[johniosaif]

Putting it in to an independent would be the way to go, no way would I ever put money into a drain like this, who knows what the bottom would go.

 

[malc]

john, i would not put a penny into this type of deal, independent or not, but you know once one contractor starts these things , the rest will follow.
the building contractor i am talking about is notorious for busting subbies, but there are still, workers on their jobs.
the only advice that i could give a sub contractor, is be very carefull, you are better off closing down then getting involed in these schemes.

 

[johniosaif]

john, i would not put a penny into this type of deal, independent or not, but you know once one contractor starts these things , the rest will follow.
the building contractor i am talking about is notorious for busting subbies, but there are still, workers on their jobs.
the only advice that i could give a sub contractor, is be very carefull, you are better off closing down then getting involed in these schemes.

Not one for me, watched too many in Ireland getting screwed by contractors underpricing jobs then knocking suppliers and subbies, the contractors do well and its all legal bizarrely .

 

[Curry]

It's the rich robbing the poor and it's ******* disgraceful

 

[johniosaif]

It's the rich robbing the poor and it's ******* disgraceful

Its pre planned theft of your goods and services, it could ruin a man, you go in there paying your guys every week and then get knocked 8 weeks down the road, they deserve shooting.

 

[Rhys]

Local council is worse.. They've bankrupted a few people by not paying them.

 

[owls]

john, i would not put a penny into this type of deal, independent or not, but you know once one contractor starts these things , the rest will follow.
the building contractor i am talking about is notorious for busting subbies, but there are still, workers on their jobs.
the only advice that i could give a sub contractor, is be very carefull, you are better off closing down then getting involed in these schemes.

Welcome to the construction world 2013.
name and shame them in the private bit.

 

[malc]

Local council is worse.. They've bankrupted a few people by not paying them.

do you know i have always found councils to be honest. i time the work to make sure that my invoice goes in a couple of days before the council meeting. the invoice gets passed at the meeting, and i pick a cheque from the secretary a couple of days later.

 

[johniosaif]

do you know i have always found councils to be honest. i time the work to make sure that my invoice goes in a couple of days before the council meeting. the invoice gets passed at the meeting, and i pick a cheque from the secretary a couple of days later.

But £100 k of work done by the council is billed at £ 300k they have no need or desire to not pay people, the money is set aside for the work and its more than enough ,if your paperwork is correct and your contract written and understood correctly I can't see where a problem would arise,

 

[Curry]

We need a sticky in there - We should ask @Danny

 

[Danny]

We can do it in the private part buut no way can we name and shame in the public forums

Danny

 

[johniosaif]

We can do it in the private part buut no way can we name and shame in the public forums

Danny

Ah do it, I will move my funds so that I cannot lose any dosh, be brave Danny, you are young, you can rise again and we would visit you for a while and send cigarettes

 

[User___removed]

Does the firm you mentioned rhyme with carrots???

 

[malc]

Does the firm you mentioned rhyme with carrots???

contractor

no.
but i was talking to a bricklayer who did mention a firm that rhymed with carrots, and he told me DO NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR THEM!