Bloody unreal

Renders SW

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Having a white cscs card which they scrapped on the 31st sept. I decided to call CSCS and ask what I needed to get because on my card I am listed as a specialist rendering operative, I said I carry out machine applied renders only, there answer shocked me, She said they do not have anything at present to cover this trade but there working on it, she told me that I had to purchase a temporary operative card which is valid for 6 months ( another £30) to enable me to carry on working. what planet are these idiots on, removing a card that they have no replacement for. If you think I am joking, call them up and tell them you are a machine applied external renderer .
I asked her why I was able to get onsite on the 31st September but the next morning I wouldn't be able too, she didnt have an answer. How are you other renderers getting on
 

flynnyman

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Having a white cscs card which they scrapped on the 31st sept. I decided to call CSCS and ask what I needed to get because on my card I am listed as a specialist rendering operative, I said I carry out machine applied renders only, there answer shocked me, She said they do not have anything at present to cover this trade but there working on it, she told me that I had to purchase a temporary operative card which is valid for 6 months ( another £30) to enable me to carry on working. what planet are these idiots on, removing a card that they have no replacement for. If you think I am joking, call them up and tell them you are a machine applied external renderer .
I asked her why I was able to get onsite on the 31st September but the next morning I wouldn't be able too, she didnt have an answer. How are you other renderers getting on
I'm More shocked you think your specialist lol it's f**k**g part of plastering ffs and a very small part of it, with even less skill needed than before coz of your machine, so maybe apply for a labourers card ;)
 
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Renders SW

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fanny fanny fannyman, are you still running around being the interenet hard man, insulting people and making out your the top man, considering your age, its very immature my friend. we all know it boils down to the fact we earn a lot more than your old bones can and it upsets you because you cant run your own machine because to be honest, your thick as f**k and just cant work out how to run a machine. why not try and not be such an angry twat and try and be nice to people.
 

flynnyman

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fanny fanny fannyman, are you still running around being the interenet hard man, insulting people and making out your the top man, considering your age, its very immature my friend. we all know it boils down to the fact we earn a lot more than your old bones can and it upsets you because you cant run your own machine because to be honest, your thick as f**k and just cant work out how to run a machine. why not try and not be such an angry twat and try and be nice to people.
Shut up you boring c**t I was having a laugh now go away and fill that form in for your labourers card lol specialist who admitted he can't do f**k all else hahahahahaha
 

Renders SW

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fanny fanny fannyman, are you still running around being the interenet hard man, insulting people and making out your the top man, considering your age, its very immature my friend. we all know it boils down to the fact we earn a lot more than your old bones can and it upsets you because you cant run your own machine because to be honest, your thick as f**k and just cant work out how to run a machine. why not try and not be such an angry twat and try and be nice to people.
 

Renders SW

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like i said, a forum hardman who likes to run around insulting people and if you was not a thick c**t, you would clearly know that cscs put that on the card and I really dont give a s**t what card i have as long as it gets me onsite . you know f**k all about me, I have been plastering for over 30 years, yes I can run cornice and like most of us older plasterers, I learn t from my father and didnt do the bullshit NVQ so I can walk around with a gold card, Just because someone carrys a card, no matter what it says on the back means f**k all and proves nothing about there ability to do the job , if I could do my job on a labourers card I would but dickhead agents wont let that happen/
 

Renders SW

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So back to op did they say come back in 6 months for the new card ?
all they would say is there will be something in place by then, I dont bloody care what card I can have, just want to do a job I have done for 30 years . I was asked by a 20 year old , qualified plasterer how to gauge some sand and cement window reveals, told him to set a gauge and run it off the frame so the margin is right and he didnt have a f**k**g clue. Apparently , they dont teach that at collage because reveals are D&Ded now, these are the so called card carrying idiots that are allowed onsite
 

flynnyman

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like i said, a forum hardman who likes to run around insulting people and if you was not a thick c**t, you would clearly know that cscs put that on the card and I really dont give a s**t what card i have as long as it gets me onsite . you know f**k all about me, I have been plastering for over 30 years, yes I can run cornice and like most of us older plasterers, I learn t from my father and didnt do the bullshit NVQ so I can walk around with a gold card, Just because someone carrys a card, no matter what it says on the back means f**k all and proves nothing about there ability to do the job , if I could do my job on a labourers card I would but dickhead agents wont let that happen/
Nothing to do with Being a hard man more to do with you not having a sense of humour, you obviously know me from way back and you knew my opinion on the CSCS card from way back, now your sat on the wrong side of the fence crying to anyone who will listen you have 30 years experience, it means nothing if youve not got any quals, cry all you want now you have took your head out of the sand and stop boasting about money coz if you can't get on the job you won't have any :)
 
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Cornelius

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all they would say is there will be something in place by then, I dont bloody care what card I can have, just want to do a job I have done for 30 years . I was asked by a 20 year old , qualified plasterer how to gauge some sand and cement window reveals, told him to set a gauge and run it off the frame so the margin is right and he didnt have a f**k**g clue. Apparently , they dont teach that at collage because reveals are D&Ded now, these are the so called card carrying idiots that are allowed onsite
Where are you based mate?
 

flynnyman

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We've been over this before and the debate always goes the same way but th bottom line is you need the quals for the card. Maybe look into setting up some kind of training where you received an NVQ for using a machine? god knows they've given them out for other silly things ;). Stop moaning about it and blaming everyone else do something, like I said all them years ago, your gonna need one or you will be looking in over the fence xx
 

Lastlaff

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Anyone out there with the Goldcard and does it make any difference to the £'S or the quality of the work offered to you over the lower card?
 

flynnyman

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Anyone out there with the Goldcard and does it make any difference to the £'S or the quality of the work offered to you over the lower card?
Probably not but it could be the deal breaker getting the job or even a start. Spoke on the cscs card in depth over the years and took plenty of flack regarding it, which to be fair was always taken the wrong way and usually by spreads, with no quals. I remember my lecturer talking about this in 91/92 and he always said it was a European thing, to bring everyone into line and police it. The problem with it was quals were given away to anyone free who was lucky to be funded, but what it did was cheapen the quals. A level 1-2 are not really regarded as any kind of measure on skills or knowledge, because of the way they were given out, seven years ago my mate qualified for a skilled visa in Sydney ahead of his missus, who was a assistant head teacher. That door soon got shut when they clicked on how the quals were gained and the same applies here, or will do in the future. There is going to be a time when an insurance claim is refused on the fact the tradesmen had no quals or a cscs card, then the s**t will hit the fan, similar things are hitting domestics when pricing a decent job but I can't be arsed going into that.
 

Marshy

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That cscs shite is a croc of s**t just like the Corgi shite was for plumbing and the part b crap for electrics!!! Just an excuse to get money out of you as is trust a w**k*r and local dogging expert etc no matter what bits of paper you have? If you can't do the job you soon get found out!! Let's face it the building trade has been full of cowboys and chancers and firemen since the dawn of time and no f**k**g scheme is going to get rid of them!! Rant over I'm off to find some milfs on internet dating sites
 

johniosaif

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Similar to some other scheme I know that we got told was free, then for the first 100, they are all scams
The brought in badges for bouncers and ended up with 7 stone traffic wardens working in night clubs ,sometimes you need the man on the door who isn't afraid more than the guy who will quote subsection 16 of the whatever law , luckily I haven't needed the cscs card , I got the blue card on the ' grandfather rights' I was offered the gold for £2500 and a course , how the fuk do I get that £2500 back, I declined ,I have got my BGS badge though ,British gypsum have been generous with samples and I got one decent job from them so I'm happy enough, I think the plumbers and electrics certs are miles from our certs though ,the are essential ours are to be laughed at ,meaningless,but if the get a person on site ,well and good,but I personally swerve proper sites with all the H&s and induction
 

beader

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That cscs shite is a croc of s**t just like the Corgi shite was for plumbing and the part b crap for electrics!!! Just an excuse to get money out of you as is trust a w**k*r and local dogging expert etc no matter what bits of paper you have? If you can't do the job you soon get found out!! Let's face it the building trade has been full of cowboys and chancers and firemen since the dawn of time and no f**k**g scheme is going to get rid of them!! Rant over I'm off to find some milfs on internet dating sites
Does a bus pass do the same thing for a milf as a cscs card does for a plasterer?
 

raggles

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I do not have a cscs card but could get a gold card and have not worked on a site of any size since 1986. However, I have been offered work on small developments of say 6 to 12 plots because they know I could get the gold card and therefore be classed as site supervisor or whatever, I also have a Ba in leadership and management but that's another story!!!!
 

Marshy

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I do not have a cscs card but could get a gold card and have not worked on a site of any size since 1986. However, I have been offered work on small developments of say 6 to 12 plots because they know I could get the gold card and therefore be classed as site supervisor or whatever, I also have a Ba in leadership and management but that's another story!!!!
Your well respected on here too mate
 

Marshy

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Marshy, I will buy yours then . Fanny man got it all wrong as normal , I machine render because I'm an old twat who can't keep up with the younger kids
You come across as alright mate No worries. Just stick around and don't give up. Plenty of good lads and lasses on here who will genuinely try and help others out
 

Marshy

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Been on here a long time ago and fanny was a grumpy test then and a wind up merchant , is gibbo still here
Yes @Gibbo is a top bloke but I guess/know he's watching football his team winning 2-0 at the mo. I've tagged @Geason for you as they may be able to help you. Or at least advise what best to do. We may take the piss out of each other on here but we will help anyone who genuinely needs it
 

flynnyman

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Been on here a long time ago and fanny was a grumpy test then and a wind up merchant , is gibbo still here
Test? how dare you, twat I can handle, I've never been so insulted..........well not since @Vincey called me a poopi bum :) welcome back its like a part of me has come home xx
 
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