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The Apprentice

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@The Apprentice I've signed up to it and there's been absolutely diddle on it as yet. Is it not really getting off the ground? Could this be because @Vincey is on holiday?
Is @smoother09 building up to coming out?
So many questions.
You will only be able to see posts after you have joined the group. It's not a group we want to post stuff on there for the sake of posting, it's more a group where we can get in touch with people to pass on messages and you can contact us as well.
 

Brimstone

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Right now I don't do WhatsApp as I don't like Facebook looking over everybody's shoulder and warping what we see and hear. I might be almost literally forced to change and sign up now, due to personal stuff, but until I do,.
Please explain why exactly everybody has got their panties in a wad about disposal of plasterboard ? What is the issue about disposal and does it apply to bagged stuff aswell. I get about using masks and not breathing it in etc when we are using it but surely that's not it for skipping it?
 

bof

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Right now I don't do WhatsApp as I don't like Facebook looking over everybody's shoulder and warping what we see and hear. I might be almost literally forced to change and sign up now, due to personal stuff, but until I do,.
Please explain why exactly everybody has got their panties in a wad about disposal of plasterboard ? What is the issue about disposal and does it apply to bagged stuff aswell. I get about using masks and not breathing it in etc when we are using it but surely that's not it for skipping it?
I thought what's app is encrypted , Facebook can't read it
 

tapit

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You will only be able to see posts after you have joined the group. It's not a group we want to post stuff on there for the sake of posting, it's more a group where we can get in touch with people to pass on messages and you can contact us as well.
Gone right off the idea now.
 

Cockney1

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Networking with plasterers, I like the sound of that.
that was incredibly gay robert downey jr GIF
 

Brimstone

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I thought what's app is encrypted , Facebook can't read it
If you click off onto a link, or buy something via a link it officially becomes Facebook data, not WhatsApp. Incl all your details as if it was a FB page or vendor. Then...you'll see targetted material via WhatsApp, be that sales or political etc.
Officially they do not read encrypted messages, but if nobody does how would /is it monitored for unacceptable stuff ranging from kiddie porn, terrorism, racists etc etc.
 
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The Apprentice

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Right now I don't do WhatsApp as I don't like Facebook looking over everybody's shoulder and warping what we see and hear. I might be almost literally forced to change and sign up now, due to personal stuff, but until I do,.
Please explain why exactly everybody has got their panties in a wad about disposal of plasterboard ? What is the issue about disposal and does it apply to bagged stuff aswell. I get about using masks and not breathing it in etc when we are using it but surely that's not it for skipping it?
The regulation applies to gypsum in general so powder or waste is the same. When gypsum is buried with general waste it creates a gas, don’t ask I’m a plasterer not a scientist. All gypsum which goes to landfill goes in a separate area to stop the formation of the gas.
 

Brimstone

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The regulation applies to gypsum in general so powder or waste is the same. When gypsum is buried with general waste it creates a gas, don’t ask I’m a plasterer not a scientist. All gypsum which goes to landfill goes in a separate area to stop the formation of the gas.
Thank you. With that info I'm able to find the techie bit, which also maybe explains why some BG boards and plasters have come in for lots of stick about quality;

Environment Agency; "the relationship between the amount of sulphate waste and the production of hydrogen sulphide gas is complex. We cannot therefore set an acceptable limit within which gypsum can be deposited with biodegradable waste without creating this gas.”
Fair enough - HS is nasty stuff, likes to attach to red blood cells instead of oxygen (same as carbon monoxide) if breathed in.

Environment Agency again; "we want to encourage the reuse and recycling of more gypsum"
"PAS 109:2008 The standard outlines specifications for the production of recycled gypsum from waste plasterboard and provides guidance for when the waste material is reprocessed into quality gypsum. "

BG as the biggest UK supplier must be under a lot of pressure to be seen to recyle. But depite best efforts - Crap input, Quality output?
So how much gypsum and board does BG recycle into new product? And is this why the quality and usability has been so criticised?
 

The Apprentice

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Thank you. With that info I'm able to find the techie bit, which also maybe explains why some BG boards and plasters have come in for lots of stick about quality;

Environment Agency; "the relationship between the amount of sulphate waste and the production of hydrogen sulphide gas is complex. We cannot therefore set an acceptable limit within which gypsum can be deposited with biodegradable waste without creating this gas.”
Fair enough - HS is nasty stuff, likes to attach to red blood cells instead of oxygen (same as carbon monoxide) if breathed in.

Environment Agency again; "we want to encourage the reuse and recycling of more gypsum"
"PAS 109:2008 The standard outlines specifications for the production of recycled gypsum from waste plasterboard and provides guidance for when the waste material is reprocessed into quality gypsum. "

BG as the biggest UK supplier must be under a lot of pressure to be seen to recyle. But depite best efforts - Crap input, Quality output?
So how much gypsum and board does BG recycle into new product? And is this why the quality and usability has been so criticised?
No idea on the actual figures tbh but the only recycled materials goes in the boards. The change in plaster is due to it being a natural product. With regards to the boards feeling different and cutting differently is due to the core material being more natural gypsum than the desulphurised gypsum which was a waste product from the coal fired power stations. The move away from DSG is purely due to the fact that coal power stations are being closed down.
 

hstoke

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The regulation applies to gypsum in general so powder or waste is the same. When gypsum is buried with general waste it creates a gas, don’t ask I’m a plasterer not a scientist. All gypsum which goes to landfill goes in a separate area to stop the formation of the gas.
Funny u should bring this is up we suffer in Silverdale and it been national news over the last few months at our local land fill
Walleys quarry who’ve taken over the site from lafarge r blaming them on some accounts to the toxic Gas we been breathing in at our homes namely plasterboard buried ..,
 

essexandy

The Lake Governor
No idea on the actual figures tbh but the only recycled materials goes in the boards. The change in plaster is due to it being a natural product. With regards to the boards feeling different and cutting differently is due to the core material being more natural gypsum than the desulphurised gypsum which was a waste product from the coal fired power stations. The move away from DSG is purely due to the fact that coal power stations are being closed down.
Gary what type of gypsum ar Lafarge, Siniat and the Turkish lot putting in their boards, as they are all better quality overall. BG board varies from pallet to pallet.
 

Brimstone

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Confirms info from other sources that coated products such as Galvanised metal also in short supply. Plastic beads here we come, wonder what we're going to do for stud partitions - Self-finished SIPS panels I expect., no plaster, tape and scrape.
 

The Apprentice

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Confirms info from other sources that coated products such as Galvanised metal also in short supply. Plastic beads here we come, wonder what we're going to do for stud partitions - Self-finished SIPS panels I expect., no plaster, tape and scrape.
Global shortage of metal
 
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