Electric Machine

JVplastering

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looking for render machine for spraying mono on domestic size jobs.
If nothing suitable probably looking to buy MTec 200 new.
But thought I’d see if there’s anything out there??
 
Yeah I’ve seen this one, and spoke to the chap.
But like you said there’s not enough saving to justify not buying new.
Do you chaps think buying new is essential I’ve seen a M-Tec 300 few years old for around £4K
Is that too much of a risk
Not sure how much hammer they get!
Depends on how much rendering you do a year ,your team set up ,site work ect
 
Yeah I’ve seen this one, and spoke to the chap.
But like you said there’s not enough saving to justify not buying new.
Do you chaps think buying new is essential I’ve seen a M-Tec 300 few years old for around £4K
Is that too much of a risk
Not sure how much hammer they get!

Yup the saving has to be enough to outweigh buying new
 
I’ve got a SP11 that I use for Liquid Screed and commercial render. But find it hard work on smaller domestic jobs.
Got about 7 houses/extentions all ready booked in and expecting a fair few more.
Rendering I run a team of 3 of us with one other plasterer who covers me when working on screed.
Think a new one would be paid off soon enough but you know what it’s like always after a way to save a bit of coin!
 
Do you have an m-tec?
Is the geni a must or will it run from a domestic 240v supply?
No , I don’t have one . You can run it from domestic supply, try always to use the cookers socket, but from experience I know gene and water barrel is the way forward. Eliminates quite nightmare days and heart attacks.
 
The Ritmo l will run off the mains power no problem
Would you say that’s the best bet as far as working on domestic sites?
Looking back at a few threads sounds like this discussion has done the rounds!
I haven’t looked at the Ritmo L but looks like I might have to see the both in action.
Problem is time is money
 
Would you say that’s the best bet as far as working on domestic sites?
Looking back at a few threads sounds like this discussion has done the rounds!
I haven’t looked at the Ritmo L but looks like I might have to see the both in action.
Problem is time is money

I'd go see both. As iv only used the ritmo. So can only comment on it. Am well happy with it tho.
 
Would you say that’s the best bet as far as working on domestic sites?
Looking back at a few threads sounds like this discussion has done the rounds!
I haven’t looked at the Ritmo L but looks like I might have to see the both in action.
Problem is time is money

I had this discussion before Christmas, after much deliberating and sifting through every thread I decided on the ritmo L location was key in it. Rotherham was under 2hours away Cheltenham was just under 4 hours. I didn’t have time to view both in action having a utiform v2 to hand I was amazed when I seen the ritmo in action. Sure the mtec is the same. What I found when I was looking though was there seemed to be a lot more second hand mtec’s for sale than ritmo’s which was strange as there’s a lot more ritmos in circulation.


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I had this discussion before Christmas, after much deliberating and sifting through every thread I decided on the ritmo L location was key in it. Rotherham was under 2hours away Cheltenham was just under 4 hours. I didn’t have time to view both in action having a utiform v2 to hand I was amazed when I seen the ritmo in action. Sure the mtec is the same. What I found when I was looking though was there seemed to be a lot more second hand mtec’s for sale than ritmo’s which was strange as there’s a lot more ritmos in circulation.


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Think I was reading your post earlier!
How do you find the Ritmo in comparison to the V2, presume you use that for larger scale rendering??
Is it a lot more controllable on smaller jobs
 
Mint little machine, faster than it looks in videos. Nothing like the diesel obviously, I’d sooner use it than the diesel just for cleaning it out alone. Go and see them both if you can, I couldn’t with the run up to Xmas. Would of been good to see them side by side. You need a 5va tranny for the mtec to, thought that was just another thing that could potentially ruin my day.


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Just looking at the traveling for me and PFT central is 2 1/2 hrs away and PFT Wales is 2 1/2hrs away so in a right predicament now!
What’s the deal with the PFT trade name and 2 separate companies?? Or is that a sore subject!
 
Just looking at the traveling for me and PFT central is 2 1/2 hrs away and PFT Wales is 2 1/2hrs away so in a right predicament now!
What’s the deal with the PFT trade name and 2 separate companies?? Or is that a sore subject!
Not the same company
 
Jv you sound exactly how I was when researching machine except you have by sounds of it good machine use experience, I’m just looking at that second hand m200 thinking why not try a cheeky offer to him if you want a bargain, tbf it’s way over priced for a second hand machine if you didn’t like it and got it a grand or two cheaper could always sell it again and get your money back
 
Jv you sound exactly how I was when researching machine except you have by sounds of it good machine use experience, I’m just looking at that second hand m200 thinking why not try a cheeky offer to him if you want a bargain, tbf it’s way over priced for a second hand machine if you didn’t like it and got it a grand or two cheaper could always sell it again and get your money back
Already done mate!
Awaiting a reply
But also with a bit of research the PFT Machine looks good for domestic but a bit worried about 240v on sites or even domestic especially when I have people working for me, insurance wise?
 
Already done mate!
Awaiting a reply
But also with a bit of research the PFT Machine looks good for domestic but a bit worried about 240v on sites or even domestic especially when I have people working for me, insurance wise?
Fair play mate , tbh I work on my own so not sure about staff etc
 
Fair play mate , tbh I work on my own so not sure about staff etc
You use a machine on your own??
How do you manage mix, spray, rule and flatten on your own?

I left the SP11 with material in the pipe for 3/4 hr after spraying a 140m2 wall and it hardened in the pipe, smashing f**k out of the pipes for the next 1hr made sure I never did it again!
 
Cos the other dealers couldn’t sell any and they made Ryan go away.Now his business is bigger and better. The man knows how to take care of customers (y)

I don't know anything about it lol. And don't want to. I get well looked after off my pft dealer tbh. And the end of the day it's only a tool. :birra:
 
Cos the other dealers couldn’t sell any and they made Ryan go away.Now his business is bigger and better. The man knows how to take care of customers (y)
To be fair Ryan has got the shpeil.
Or is hellishgood if I may go welsh on it!
Fair sales man!
 
You use a machine on your own??
How do you manage mix, spray, rule and flatten on your own?

I left the SP11 with material in the pipe for 3/4 hr after spraying a 140m2 wall and it hardened in the pipe, smashing f**k out of the pipes for the next 1hr made sure I never did it again!
Hopper extension mate I load it spray then fill it spray , bigger area I’ll ask someone to help me out but most of my jobs small domestic stuff.
 
Basic reason, no sore subject for us. We used to sell PFT machines and we no longer do, but we traded with that name for years and built a good relationship with our customers. Not because of what brand we sold but what we offered.
PFT is a good brand, but we chose M-tec in the end, for a large number of reasons and in all honesty, it was the riskiest but best decision we could have made

We mainly focus on Plasterers 1 Stop Shop as our brand name

The M200 IMO is your best bet. Pumping distance and output is greater and you have no restrictions when it comes to power. A customers cooker socket won’t always be available and you do have restrictions on site and with insurance using 240v. I know some get away with it, but your investing 8-9k, I would rather be 100% than taking a gamble.

The transformer plugs directly into the socket, machine and air compressor into the transformer and that’s you sorted. Obviously running from a gene will eliminate any potential issue about others using the power etc so it’s a safer bet but not essential

I’m confident in saying, for the last 2 years the M200 has dominated the market and its been the best selling machine. And the way this year has started, we are set to grow again.

The main thing you also need to look at is who will be there to support you. We have 5 dedicated technicians who can either help over the phone or at our depot, we also have a guy on the road.
Alongside this, we have more depots opening around the country who will all be able to offer this service and support
 
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