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Lodan said:
To be honest mate im usually the same and like the down time but 2 sets at 4 hours is going to make for a long day....im maybe thinking just put the whole room on in one really big set but never done so much and makes me a bit nervous
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Worse that goes wrong is one bit comes out crap you gotta pva and do again
 
Natwasere said:
Mate tell me about that one...... skimmed a mates hall stairwell dining room and lounge and it's got cracks all over, real heart ache to see. Top coat seems stuck but base coat is suspect. Should of put a bit more effort into preventing cracks but was doing it cheap. And now twice.... I literally never want to work for friends ever ever again
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Agreed mate. You can't say no though lol :muyenojado:
 
I can't work for friends or family cos I feel obliged to either take nothing or do cheap only mate is your back pocket and getting paid nothing worse than doing a favour and your there all day thinking why did I agree to this
 
Hi mate silky/glossy paint my pal always throws a couple handfuls of multi in the pva it may not speed up your set but you won't be hanging around all day for the pva to take....screw fix got some good Lil site heaters on offer at the mo they would defo help
 
Green trowel said:
Hi mate silky/glossy paint my pal always throws a couple handfuls of multi in the pva it may not speed up your set but you won't be hanging around all day for the pva to take....screw fix got some good Lil site heaters on offer at the mo they would defo help
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Cheers mate, nice tip on the pva(y)
 
GrantyBoy said:
Why you not using unifinish?
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Only use unifinish to save time, had a half day of prep today so was confident if I pva'd first thing it would be dry for lunchtime...only just though in the end
 
If its silk paint go all over the wall using the corner of an old scraper chipping away little bits of the old skim to give your finish a good key to stick to then PVA. A bit more effort but wort it.
 
Lodan said:
To be honest mate im usually the same and like the down time but 2 sets at 4 hours is going to make for a long day....im maybe thinking just put the whole room on in one really big set but never done so much and makes me a bit nervous
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Throw in some cream of tartar or do a rolling hit mate
 
What size of bucket do you use? How big is your set? how long would it take you to use the bucket comfortably?
 
Simon85 said:
What size of bucket do you use? How big is your set? how long would it take you to use the bucket comfortably?
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usually about a bag and a half for first coat....no idea how long it takes me, usually second coat after around 45 mins, lay on, have a fag, clean bucket, flatten, have a fag then sort my water out and second coat
 
Lodan said:
usually about a bag and a half for first coat....no idea how long it takes me, usually second coat after around 45 mins, lay on, have a fag, clean bucket, flatten, have a fag then sort my water out and second coat
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That's where your going wrong you should be laying down straight away, there is 45 mins saved straight away and then probably another 30 with the gear pulling in quicker and use a tight coat to lay down, get your roughing on coat a bit thicker and mix slightly stiffer Putting on as flat as possible, over mix the first coat this will start to set quicker which will also make your laying down coat set quicker.
 
flynnyman said:
That's where your going wrong you should be laying down straight away, there is 45 mins saved straight away and then probably another 30 with the gear pulling in quicker and use a tight coat to lay down, get your roughing on coat a bit thicker and mix slightly stiffer Putting on as flat as possible, over mix the first coat this will start to set quicker which will also make your laying down coat set quicker.
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flynnyman said:
That's where your going wrong you should be laying down straight away, there is 45 mins saved straight away and then probably another 30 with the gear pulling in quicker and use a tight coat to lay down, get your roughing on coat a bit thicker and mix slightly stiffer Putting on as flat as possible, over mix the first coat this will start to set quicker which will also make your laying down coat set quicker.
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Cheers flynny, used to lay second coat on quicker but read a lot about second coating too soon is same as 2 coats from 1 bucket and after a slightly rippley problem i had I was trying to improve my behaviour...for a bit of context my normal sets are 2.30...always mix 1st coat reasonably stiff as usually going over s**t so find it helps getting slightly thicker coverage
 
You should of pva all of the next days hit and just go straight on the dry pva, i do that if im there for more than 1 day, done it today, in the morning, turn up, mix up and bang it on.
 
kebab king said:
You should of pva all of the next days hit and just go straight on the dry pva, i do that if im there for more than 1 day, done it today, in the morning, turn up, mix up and bang it on.
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Same as but I use pre grit now done it today over boarded a ceiling and pre grit ready for tomorrow.
 
Pagey said:
I would grit over silk or gloss myself don't trust pva on it had a mare before waiting for it to go off and even had pva come back to life after I had done the night before so now always grit gloss/silk
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Micro all day long on silk paint. Infact micro all day every day
 
Lodan said:
Cheers flynny, used to lay second coat on quicker but read a lot about second coating too soon is same as 2 coats from 1 bucket and after a slightly rippley problem i had I was trying to improve my behaviour...for a bit of context my normal sets are 2.30...always mix 1st coat reasonably stiff as usually going over s**t so find it helps getting slightly thicker coverage
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Nothing wrong with laying down with the same gear just mix it up with a drop of water but it will set quicker which is what you want if it's two mixes lay down straight away with the fresh gear.
 
kebab king said:
You should of pva all of the next days hit and just go straight on the dry pva, i do that if im there for more than 1 day, done it today, in the morning, turn up, mix up and bang it on.
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Yeah ive done that, pva'd the whole room so going onto dry pva tomorrow...even that might speed it up a bit tomorrow as was still slightly tacky what I went over today
 
Lodan said:
Yeah ive done that, pva'd the whole room so going onto dry pva tomorrow...even that might speed it up a bit tomorrow as was still slightly tacky what I went over today
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It will become Tacky again as soon as the wet Plaster Touches it.
 
flynnyman said:
I've been using pregrit about three years I rarely PVA unless I need to blend into something, most jobs are two days atleast so never get held up. It is a lot better to skim over than PVA in my opinion and a better key.
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Which one do you use flynny...just out of interest
 
flynnyman said:
I've been using pregrit about three years I rarely PVA unless I need to blend into something, most jobs are two days atleast so never get held up. It is a lot better to skim over than PVA in my opinion and a better key.
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Am the same. Can't remember the last time I used PVA. Micro is a dream to skim over and it dries pretty quick so no need to leave it overnight. And you can water it down.
 
Lodan said:
usually about a bag and a half for first coat....no idea how long it takes me, usually second coat after around 45 mins, lay on, have a fag, clean bucket, flatten, have a fag then sort my water out and second coat
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Throw a small double handful of cement in to the water before u start,gove it a good birl around. Should just give it a wee bit of bite, and bring it in quicker. Same with second coat, but adjust amount of cement to the size of your next mix accordingly. Shouldn't be enough cement to compromise the finish, or make it set too quick on you so you're under any pressure. Should just shorten setting time an hour or so. Make sure it's a good bag all the same, don't want to mix gritty cement through ur finish.
 
@Lodan. Perfect opportunity to try a big hit - your a year in to this job now, stretch yourself and you'll do it. You have a delayed set with glossed walls/cold room, take advantage of it and this time tomorrow you'll be a different spread. Prep yourself in the morning - big brekky and you'll do it.
 
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