Have u read the thread? She never said he did it in day and u shud never just think fck it if any1 squeezes out of me I dont do job not take it on and ruin somebodys home
Unhappy with plastering work but unsure what to expect?
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I wish all public wud look at these kind of threads..tbf she wudnt of known paying a hourly rate on a private Job isn't the normal
OMG......as we say on mumsnet.....@kitchy speaks the truth, this is miles worse than the other thread that we all commented on. However, the issue is the same. It is either over promised and under delivered, or higher expectation and lesser / no ability.
In either case the op is left with a shite job. Both parties are at some fault, the op will just have to "suck it up". Sack the "tradesman" and use the other info on here to find a better one, prepare to raid the xmas money. On the upside, when you find a good spread, he will get it sorted for you and life will be better. Cheer up! All is not lost.
In either case the op is left with a shite job. Both parties are at some fault, the op will just have to "suck it up". Sack the "tradesman" and use the other info on here to find a better one, prepare to raid the xmas money. On the upside, when you find a good spread, he will get it sorted for you and life will be better. Cheer up! All is not lost.
I got 3 quotes before going with this guy.
First guy we got from check a trade who quoted £890. Second guy was around the £750 mark. Third guy quoted £640 but wanted the cost of the materials upfront - he wanted me to give him the money so that he ordered it. Then Andy, who said he would charge £20 an hour. The first three guys said it would be 3-4 days work, so working on the assumption it would take Andy 4 days, and adding the cost of materials his cost was comparative and we had seen one example of his work as o mentioned before (the outside wall). The work totalled 6.5 days for him and his labourer, and we have not paid him for the last 2 days work yet - and now don't intend to.
I didn't know that it was not the done thing to charge by the hour. This is the first job of this size I've had done in the house. At the time, we really did think we had chosen the right guy. How wrong we were!
First guy we got from check a trade who quoted £890. Second guy was around the £750 mark. Third guy quoted £640 but wanted the cost of the materials upfront - he wanted me to give him the money so that he ordered it. Then Andy, who said he would charge £20 an hour. The first three guys said it would be 3-4 days work, so working on the assumption it would take Andy 4 days, and adding the cost of materials his cost was comparative and we had seen one example of his work as o mentioned before (the outside wall). The work totalled 6.5 days for him and his labourer, and we have not paid him for the last 2 days work yet - and now don't intend to.
I didn't know that it was not the done thing to charge by the hour. This is the first job of this size I've had done in the house. At the time, we really did think we had chosen the right guy. How wrong we were!
Formby plastering
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He had a labourer aswell Jesus's, you sure he didn't have ago at the plastering too
Formby plastering
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Well to be fair Kate everyone deserves a chance to put it right but what I would say is if you're still not happy you want your money back.. as I would have lost complete faith in his work
Vincey
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As said , there probably is someone on forum that would be able to come and see what they can do to help sort this, If not I could arrange for a British Gypsum plasterer to come and quote,to be fair you could use a plasterer you have already had to quote they my well be inclined to help out after such a terrible experience, I know I would if it was more local to me.
zolco
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You should just straight refuse to accept his services
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He's only saying that cos he wants his 2days I bet..he wil not be able to put rite as he dsnt know wat rite is kate
Pagey
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I personally don't ask for any money up front for materials can leave me open a bit but on a job like that possibly 7-10 bags multi few boards ect I'd be in for a 100 and can get the trust from the off, if was a whole house skim I would still get the materials and then say once materials on site they can be paid for, it's a costly mistake but one you won't be making again,always go high to mid range in price cos for every good plasterer there is about 4 bad ones, buy cheap buy twice I think, it's harder to get it that rough than actually do a proper job, don't be handing over anymore money keep it towards getting a proper bloke in, the way I see it though is there is a lot of undoing to be done before you can start skimming, it's painful to see but we don't here about it, we have all had days when we gone back in to a job and thought f me that looks a bit rough where colour ain't drying right but can confirm I've never left it like that
stuart23
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I don't think the customer is at fault on this one. Guy was recommended by brother, told her he done show homes, price was in ballpark of other quotes and she also saw an example of his work. I don't see anyway she could have avoided this as the basic checks seem to be have been done but she has been conned.
Formby plastering
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Be interesting to see how it's settled
We never ask for a penny on domestics until the job is completely finished know matter how long it would take..did a full refurb last went on for about a month on and off she was practically trying to put it into our pockets but we wudnt take it until job was fully done..only cos I wudnt be arsed going back like lol
Yes agree on that point pal
Thanks guys. I don't think I have the balls to ask for money back - i don't think he'd give it back anyway. I won't be handing over any more money though, and I won't be accepting his offer to attempt to rectify. I do worry about any backlash, but I'm settled on not paying him further. I have not spoken directly to him, I have merely passed this message through my brother. He is due to call me tomorrow to discuss.
I'll begin the search again tomorrow for another plasterer, but I'll be using some of the earlier suggested websites
I'll begin the search again tomorrow for another plasterer, but I'll be using some of the earlier suggested websites
FreeD
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Not my attitude but the attitude of many. Generally where there is rough work it is a case of pay less pay twice. I.E get the work done by a family friend cheap, who did a 3 day plastering course. Had to rectify that exact scenario once.
Leeroy
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Correct mate
FreeD
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Direct him to this forum and we'll ask him to defend his work
The thing is, it wasn't "by a family friend cheap" his quote was comparable with the other quotes we had had - he wasn't the cheapest (has actually worked out the most expensive not even including the money I'll pay to get it putbright). If I was having this done by an apprentice or by a friend at mates rates I'd have expected a rough job.
I would decline the offer of rectifying it tbh and just go for a cash refund and move on...forget it happened.
But kick him in the balls as he leaves.
Without being given the opportunity to correct work though, there is no right to ask for money back
this is the way trades are going,standards on sites are grim.anyone can write "plasterer" on the side of their van,checkatrade is not a benchmark of quality.short course plasterers are a joke.you really need to view work that has been carried out ,previously, by your intended contractor.an hourly rate is meaningless as there is a vast difference in output between operatives.the person who carried out this work is not a time served plasterer.i have served a 4 year apprenticeship 40years ago and if i turned out work like that after my first 2 months i would have been punched.you really need to invest some research time before handing over your hard earned,very sorry you got turned over and i hope you get a satisfactory outcome.you need to call the fraud squad then find someone else as this tit isn't capable of putting the job right.if you lived in the north west i would call round and give you some advice,i hope someone closer to you is will do the same
Vincey
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Tbh mate bearing in mind without seeing I would of boshed out that room less than £600Bri
British Gypsum plasterer sounds expensive
Even with that, it's discretionary they don't have to give money back, it's repair or replacement first.
Try telling that to a judge then, I doubt you would get very far. As far as I'm aware they have not fell out.
You are,probably right @stuart23 re fault.....the op took a recommendation and saw an example of work. I do the same, but then I scrutinise. The op said she had expected mess, but not quite what she got. I'll bet that in the same situation the average persons "spider senses" would jangle and then alarm bells would ring. If I came home whilst he was boarding and saw the cut around the light switch my spider senses would trip to red alert.
Maybe you are right, she is not at fault, only naieve.
stuart23
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Got to agree with this, the job that's been left proves that he has no idea what he's doing, letting him back in could just make things worse
Do you think the same for withholding the remaining £340 he's asked for? Is it reasonable for me to tell him to sling his hook and not pay for his last two days work? My worry is that if I invite him in to "rectify" he'll make it worse, and pricier to fix by someone better. I do not intend to ask for money back, I'm taking that on the chin. But surely it's not unreasonable to decline the rest of the payment to him after seeing the "finished" product?