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Any help please?

Discussion in 'DIY Plastering - Plastering Help - DIY Plastering ' started by ColinT56, May 14, 2017.

  1. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    Two coats of plaster over lightly combed artex ceiling, both coats dried quickly and a large area came down about two hours later and also a few small areas where it had not bonded properly.
    Any advice please?
     
  2. Olican

    Olican Private Member

    Pva or pregrit?
     
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  3. Danny

    Danny TPF OWNER

    get some pics up... and the bits that came down what was on the back of the plaster was it white?
     
  4. bopper

    bopper Active Member

    Yes you could of used the" zombie mix " or you could of gritted the ceiling after a scrape and them skimmed it.
     
  5. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    I didn't pva. Not white on back of what came off, just grooved as artex. I've taken it all off now and pva'd ceiling, do you think this will be enough with another pva before re-skimming?
    I'm looking up pre-grit!
     
  6. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    Is pre-grit liquid, brushed on.
    Don't think the ceiling was non- porous, as first coat dried quickly?
    Thanks for replies.
     
  7. Danny

    Danny TPF OWNER

    what plaster did you use?
     
  8. zombie

    zombie Private Member

    Given previous issues

    Underboard & skim though tbh much better to get a plasterer in pal
     
  9. Ajax123

    Ajax123 Member

    dried too fast. substrate sucked the moisture out too quick meaning bond could not form. pva or prime should do the trick.
    on dry subsrates I often spray with water before skimming. never had an issue.
    I have watched my render peel off before though....im not good with render
     
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  10. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    Used Thistle Multi Finish. Agree and hope Ajax123 is correct and think I'll try again with another coat of pva?
    I think I must have been Very lucky in the past because I've never pva'd a ceiling if it's been in good condition and painted. Lucky!

    "zombie mix" a mix of bonding and multi finish?

    Thanks for your help.
     
  11. Cockney1

    Cockney1 Active Member

    No p.v.a :eek:!!! There's the answer to your question. Unfortunately you have found out the hard way about plastering. Why didn't you just get a local plasterer in to do it. Plastering is not for AMATEURS!
     
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  12. Marshy

    Marshy Private Member

    Run and bloody fast
     
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  13. Lodan

    Lodan Private Member

    PVA everything
     
  14. Cockney1

    Cockney1 Active Member

    Hahaha!!! Don't slam the door on the way out!
     
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  15. Dropsalot

    Dropsalot Private Member

    Picture the scene.........Colin's got spag Bol on the go, wine on the table, her indoors is "making herself a little more comfortable"........Col, never one to miss a trick whacks the heating up a tad........and gets the lynx out.......
    She comes down all alluring and hair swishing and stuff, Col gives the spag Bol a bit of a stir, knocks it down to a low simmer, grabs her indoors for a quick fumble and "boom" (as the yoof say).....artex and skim all over the place.......(y)
     
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  16. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    Ha ha, had time for a quick fumble between coats!!

    For those not reading the thread, I have taken the whole lot down as stated earlier.


    Is "Zombie Mix" bonding coat and multi finish mix? please
     
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  17. bopper

    bopper Active Member

    Yes more skim than bonding tho
     
  18. Formby plastering

    Formby plastering Active Member

    You would of been better practicing on a wall first to be fair.. and a little bit of research on preparation before you started aswell.
     
  19. Danny

    Danny TPF OWNER

    yes a few handfuls of bonding mixed into a bag of multifinish
     
  20. ColinT56

    ColinT56 New Member

    Thanks for advice, I'll do a little less fumbling and try again!! :)
     
  21. Fatarm

    Fatarm Trainee mod

    Put a pre coat of plasterboard on it then skimalola.(y)
     
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  22. Formby plastering

    Formby plastering Active Member

    Probably best if the missus is out
     
  23. Jessica222

    Jessica222 New Member

    It depends on which plaster you have used for coating. Also, it matters how you applied the coats twice.
     
  24. Recaro

    Recaro New Member

    Sounds like the boards mates, Can use Blue grit, leave for 24hrs then PVA and skim as normal. that should do it. Blue grit from Tool station £15 for 5ltrs
     
  25. Lodan

    Lodan Private Member

    Its not on boards
     
  26. JessThePlasterer

    JessThePlasterer Well-Known Member

    Hey there's only one Jess the plasterer round these parts! ;)
     
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  27. Recaro

    Recaro New Member

    If not on boards then walls it should be ok
     
  28. Marshy

    Marshy Private Member

    Buy a massive dildo a vibrating one and plug it to the mains and shove it deep up your arse for being an incompetent fuckwit !! Here endeth the lesson
     
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  29. Olican

    Olican Private Member

    Pmsl
     
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  30. Optimum

    Optimum Member

    It's called distemper the white chalky stuff board over it then skim stuff is a fxxking nightmare can't even paint over it
     
  31. Formby plastering

    Formby plastering Active Member

    're board and skim simples
     
  32. Recaro

    Recaro New Member

    wouldn't blue grit or bond it applied then skim, wouldn't that do it?
     
  33. Formby plastering

    Formby plastering Active Member

    You've just had issues with it listen to the easiest option or your wasting your time
     
  34. bobski

    bobski Active Member

    Are you on about gritting it?
    And then pva over grit?
     
  35. Recaro

    Recaro New Member

    Just blue grit and then skim, no Pva needed
     

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